http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ Collection of Thoughts Forum: Collection of thoughts en Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:42:06 +0000 http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1297#post-26260 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:40:28 +0000 Star 26260@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>ignorance is introduced by duality...when we fail to see humanity as it is...not separate...we deny our very being of its own humanity of compassion...and we suffer... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1297#post-26259 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:40:10 +0000 GrimNexus 26259@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>no i didn't, i'm sorry,</p> <p>i was asking for a segue into the discourse </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1267/page/4#post-26258 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:39:10 +0000 GrimNexus 26258@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>i dont assume how others think though clyde, why would you even ask me to do such a thing?<br /> that's why i have to ask you what you meant, at least as much as i am able to,<br /> I think i'm ok on what you mean by "confused", because i dont know what you mean by "inspiried".</p> <p>What do you mean by "inspired" exactly? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1297#post-26257 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:38:09 +0000 Star 26257@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>the answer is in the poem...did you not understand it? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1296#post-26256 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:37:05 +0000 Star 26256@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>goodnight grim...i don't think fin is going to reply to this thread...but maybe he will now that you have manipulated him a bit...lol </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1297#post-26255 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:35:50 +0000 GrimNexus 26255@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>star,<br /> thank you for the poem,</p> <p>i am not sure how that segues into the discourse, though.<br /> could you clarify through the question i asked?</p> <p>star, i'm just asking for a dabble of that critical thinking u mentioned,<br /> i'd like to hear your thoughts on either of the below, moreso on the second one though...<br /> the question would be: "where does ignorance come from?"<br /> or<br /> "Why does wisdom and/or/of compassion allow for there to be ignorance?" </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1267/page/4#post-26254 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:34:06 +0000 clyde 26254@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Grim;</p> <p>I meant I was either inspired or confused; and its for you to decide. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1293/page/2#post-26253 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:32:41 +0000 Star 26253@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>depends on the formulation of the question...the possibility that i might get laid tonight is zero...unless i lay myself...lol </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1297#post-26252 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:26:47 +0000 Star 26252@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>i saw an older man today...<br /> he was alone; walking in the rain...<br /> i saw his face...and felt his pain...<br /> his face was sad...he used a cane...<br /> i saw this man...looked in his eyes...<br /> then felt my very being cry...<br /> immediately...i could see...<br /> at once i knew...this man was me...<br /> we were cut from the same cloth...<br /> his dirty clothes...who knows when bought...<br /> i wondered if he had a home...<br /> or just the streets were his to roam...<br /> i wondered if or when he'd eaten...<br /> i somehow knew that life had beaten...<br /> this man's heart...into the ground...<br /> but he walked away...without a sound...<br /> the only thing between us stands...<br /> our own unknowing...compassions hand...<br /> a little glimpse...into my being...<br /> more compassion...ever freeing...<br /> in honor of that man today...<br /> that i saw walking in the rain...<br /> may compassion set us free...<br /> being...that is always me...<br /> StarLight Dancing... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1267/page/4#post-26251 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:15:55 +0000 GrimNexus 26251@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>clyde you said:<br /> "Grim;</p> <p>Technically, you're correct. I was 'inspired', perhaps confused :)</p> <p>clyde"</p> <p>Do you mean 'inspired' in opposition to perhaps being confused?</p> <p>ie.<br /> Do you mean you were 'inspiried' in opposition to 'perhaps confused'? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1267/page/4#post-26250 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:10:21 +0000 clyde 26250@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Grim;</p> <p>Technically, you're correct. I was 'inspired', perhaps confused :)</p> <p>clyde </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1296#post-26249 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:05:47 +0000 GrimNexus 26249@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>wat u think about that one fin?<br /> lol<br /> gah, it's time for bed</p> <p>night all </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1298#post-26248 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:01:50 +0000 GrimNexus 26248@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>thanks </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1297#post-26247 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:57:57 +0000 GrimNexus 26247@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>i mean star,<br /> obviously the next question would be: "where does ignorance come from?"<br /> or<br /> "Why does wisdom and/or/of compassion allow for there to be ignorance?"</p> <p>a mother with a starving baby for example, would ask a question like that,<br /> What are your thoughts? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1267/page/4#post-26246 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:54:56 +0000 GrimNexus 26246@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>ah, cool<br /> i didn't see the word "serve" in there, so i wasn't sure how he was saying that he has to "serve" anyone per se</p> <p>i mean technically, he really didn't say you have to serve yourself, did he?<br /> i didn't think i saw it in there...<br /> *shrugs* </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1293/page/2#post-26245 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:51:54 +0000 GrimNexus 26245@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>star,</p> <p>what do you think?</p> <p>Which is it:<br /> Possibilities are endless.<br /> Possibilities are not-endless. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1293/page/2#post-26244 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:50:32 +0000 GrimNexus 26244@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>shin, i'm not sure i understand yet,</p> <p>could you explain a little more about what you numbered as 5 please?<br /> I'm not sure how it differs from what i offered as 3.<br /> I can accept you saying numbers: 1, 2,--and if you equate number 3 &#38; 5 together--number 3 also.</p> <p>Now my question is,<br /> you said most recently in post#26236:<br /> "good days are 1, bad days are 2, indifferent days are 3,"</p> <p>So earlier today, when you said in post#26213:<br /> "(grim asked)"shin, is it outside of possibility for someone to do the following: ..... (blah)?"</p> <p>(shin responded)Look like a question to me."<br /> So when you were responding to my question today, in post#26213, has it been a good day(1), a bad day(2), or an indifferent day(3)?</p> <p>Additionally, it's impossible for you to answer number 4 only "sometimes", unless you also answer my question that i provided with number 4.</p> <p>The reason why it is impossible?<br /> Because i am not violating the context of the rules of possibility when talking about the rules of possibility, even when talking about the context of the rules of the rules of possibility itself, we need to answer to the context.<br /> Your last few posts do not fit in the context of the questioning/discourse.<br /> ie. The context of the rules of possibility--which is numbers 1-3, and the context of the rules of the rules of possibility--which is number 4; have been violated by your last few posts.<br /> It is like if the context of the rules of baseball was being discussed, and all of a sudden you would introduce waterpolo rules.<br /> Additionally, if the context of the rules of the rules of baseball was being discussed, it is ok to even introduce how to cut up a potato. However, if the context of the rules of the rules of baseball had set itself by its own inherency, then all introduction is the inherent context itself.<br /> If this is so, then what is it to introduce the inherent context of no inherent context, to discuss inherent context?</p> <p>If you are going to respond to the discourse's context, then respond to the discourse's context relating your response in the discourse's context.</p> <p>---<br /> lastly, if you disagree, and think that what you said as number 5 is different than what i offered as number 3,</p> <p>When i said "there's no way to tell" for number 3, i was also already meaning in regards to all "possibility i have not yet thought of."(which is what you said in number 5)<br /> I already meant what you said,<br /> so if you do not think that what you said as number 5 is the same as number 3:</p> <p>How exactly would you say that what you said as number 5 is different than number 3, that i offered?<br /> or<br /> Are you saying that what you said as number 5, is the same as number 3 that i offered? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1267/page/4#post-26243 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:39:58 +0000 clyde 26243@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Grim;</p> <p>My post was inspired by selfseeker's words, "Whether you become one with God or become Satan ... this is all because of choices you make ... therefore, you are solely responsible for anything you do." </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1297#post-26242 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:13:38 +0000 Star 26242@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>grim...yes, it is only ignorance that causes horrors...</p> <p>and only the wisdom of compassion can heal them... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1300#post-26241 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:05:39 +0000 Star 26241@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>thank you fin...right now, we are all very grateful for each other... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1293/page/2#post-26240 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:03:28 +0000 Star 26240@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>possibilities are endless or no they are not...i'm confused...would someone please formulate a statement and clarify? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1300#post-26239 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:01:58 +0000 fin 26239@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Hey star, Sorry to hear. I hope you &#38; family will be ok. </p> <p>Much love to you &#38; family .... :) </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1293/page/2#post-26238 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:01:02 +0000 Star 26238@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>what are we talking about? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1267/page/4#post-26237 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:00:25 +0000 GrimNexus 26237@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>clyde,<br /> how does the link you posted, segue into the discussion?<br /> I am not following. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1293/page/2#post-26236 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:58:47 +0000 shin 26236@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Philosophy by numbers, LOL. We are dealing with life, at least I do, or try to.</p> <p>So I would say 1, 2, 3, 4, and of course 5, or any other number you may think of. Just depends on how I feel, good days are 1, bad days are 2, indifferent days are 3, sometimes it is 4, and occasionally 5.</p> <p>Yes, sometimes I edit posts. You are too eager to pounce. :) </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1300#post-26235 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:51:17 +0000 Star 26235@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>it ryhmes with here...and she is very dear to me...very dear...</p> <p>we had a really beautiful conversation...she is a wise and mature young woman...and i am very proud of her, and that she is my daughter...i love her very much... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1300#post-26234 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:47:45 +0000 shin 26234@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Personal comment. Whether real or not, the "dear" in this line<br /> "death is a part of life my dear..."<br /> sounds jarringly condescending and dismissive to me, in an otherwise beautiful work. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1300#post-26233 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:47:04 +0000 Star 26233@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>thank you shin...it's real life...but i am so thankful, that so far we think my daughter is going to be ok...much love...* </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1293/page/2#post-26232 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:46:47 +0000 GrimNexus 26232@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>that's fine, we can go with your edited version:<br /> shin you said:<br /> "5, possibilities are endless, and so I chose the possibility you have not yet thought of."</p> <p>I said:<br /> "(asking shin)3. Are you saying: "the possibilities are endless" in a neutral sense, implying that because the possibilities are endless, there's no way to tell?"<br /> (because when i said "there's no way to tell", i was also already meaning in regards to all "possibility i have not yet thought of.")</p> <p>So are you saying that what you said is the same as number 3, that i offered? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1297#post-26231 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:43:25 +0000 Star 26231@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>it is not a love that i am thinking about...</p> <p>it is compassion...what i am...every ounce of my being...it is a knowing...</p> <p>life is not about never feeling pain...it is about feeling that pain...and joy...and being ok in the midst of either...in your very being...it is about accepting life on it's own terms...having the courage and strength within to do so...which can only come from an unknown source...the source of all that is...compassion...</p> <p>even with death...there is a knowing that life goes on...and there is a confidence of being...and an openness to this very moment, here and now...that the magic of this reality holds such beauty and grace...and potential...it is in this very now that this potential for a compassionate humanity can be realized...and it is to this compassion that i offer all of my being...for that is all that there is to believe in...and it is more than enough...</p> <p>much love...and joy...may all who suffer be comforted...always, star... </p>