http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ Collection of Thoughts Forum: Spiritual Discussions en Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:53:30 +0000 http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/234#post-28762 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:49:36 +0000 BuyDogTreats 28762@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Excellent posting and beautiful description that God is just our Friend. I think as we discuss in loneliness our achievements and failure with God as it is our true friend. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/234#post-28752 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 07:23:26 +0000 InfiniteRose 28752@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>(If you meet Buddha along the way Kill him) </p> <p>You kill the notion of that which you believe to be god<br /> Scary stuff when god stops talking to you </p> <p>It’s like being abandoned</p> <p> Like a small child left along in a sea of silent non reflective-ness neither light nor darkness, some may call this death and some may call it nothingness<br /> And that which I thought was god no longer exists and everything was the wrong way around the inside is the outside, and the outside is the inside </p> <p>There is no oneness …while God stands apart from oneself<br /> here is a link to explain more<br /> enjoy </p> <p>Consciousness - an animation of Spirit<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwyuQbIb0Xs&#38;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwyuQbIb0Xs&#38;feature=player_embedded</a></p> <p>love rose </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/234#post-28746 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:46:38 +0000 abstractprophet 28746@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>of course though rose, how can kill that which can not die? ;o) </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/234#post-28745 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:02:37 +0000 InfiniteRose 28745@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>would that be god that is believed in created by others or would that be the god that you made up all by yourself... either way god is not what you think it/him/her to be </p> <p>"if you meet budda along the kill him "</p> <p>love rose </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/234#post-28741 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:39:31 +0000 abstractprophet 28741@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>why perpetuate Bertrayal by continuing to feed it by returning serve with continued bad mindedness.</p> <p>Betray is nothing more than a sign on the pathless path, that is there to remind us that above all, trust in Jah, and know that any betrayal inflicted is the will of Creation in an act of self renewal of change. Don't be fooled by your own ignorance, and rise up to the voice within that calls for all to remember that every breathe taken, is an act of UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. That is love without any set of conditions.</p> <p>More Life </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/118/page/4#post-28727 Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:12:16 +0000 josh4christ 28727@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>This is quit interesting, i commend all the participants in this noble discussion i'll also want the whole people involved in this to participate in the discussion i have posted today, which is titled "Is Religion of God Almighty?".</p> <p>Please give your personal opinions and i would'nt mind expanciating on the devine revelations given to me by the Lord Jesus Christ (Spirit of Truth) through the Holy Spirit.</p> <p>Let me not hesitate to add that, it is given unto all men to search and take dominion and that has ever since been the will and purpose of every given person that was, is and ever will be for in this alone is God's devine purpose for creating mankind upon the face of this earth, It is also given unto satan to deceive men and try to bring every man to disobey the Almighty for in this will he satan also have dominion over humanity as against the will of GOD ALMIGHTY for himself and for the beloved man that he has created.Therein lies all our struggles, seeking, educational pursuit, political ambitions and all. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/234#post-28726 Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:46:28 +0000 josh4christ 28726@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Hello Harry,</p> <p>Just to state a misconception of yours, God never threw adam from heaven but was created in the garden of Eden.</p> <p>And please when you say God the point is who is GOD and do you truly know him? Is there a difference between GOD and man and do you know his intentions for man?</p> <p>Please reply somebody or anybody. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1495#post-28725 Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:19:27 +0000 josh4christ 28725@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>I am of the awareness by conviction, through the revelation of the Holy Spirit according to Jesus the Christ, that all religion, including christianity, budahism, taohism, hinduism, judaism, islam, or what ever they might want to call it is not of God the Almighty. These are all man's ways of wanting to get to God the Almighty. Having said that, this brings to mind the inevitable question of, what is then God's way of us getting to him?</p> <p> Some of this, should have been the ideal part of man getting to the Almighty, but due to satans intent and duty as commissioned by the ALmighty as trial to man for promotion and elevation by the Almighty, men has sporadically failed the Almighty God, right from the beginning to the time of Adam and Eve through ages untill now.</p> <p> Christianity, which has the largest followership, having come in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ who is closest to the Almighty, and is God as man, has received the greatest hit, lived in utmost deception phantomed by men through satan unknowingly and has beeen led astray as previously warned by the Lord Jesus in the book of Matthew 24, verse 4 and 5 which says, "watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, "I am the Christ, and will deceive many". Having said this lets hold on for a while and ponder "who is a christ"?</p> <p> For answers to all this questions, (1) WHO IS GOD?<br /> (2) WHAT IS GOD'S WAY OF US GETTING TO HIM?<br /> (3) WHO IS A CHRIST AND WHO AND WHAT IS THECHRIST?<br /> (4) WHAT AND WHEN IS THE BEGINNING?<br /> (5) WHO AM I?<br /> (6) THE GREATEST BOOK?<br /> and other questions please do not hesitate to contact me on <a href="mailto:josh4christ@hotmail.co.uk">josh4christ@hotmail.co.uk</a> </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1492#post-28716 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:14:23 +0000 Currah 28716@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://xeeatwelve.net/articles/revelations.html" rel="nofollow">http://xeeatwelve.net/articles/revelations.html</a></p> <p>Amitakh Stanford<br /> Presents<br /> The New Revelation –<br /> John the Divine Versus the Anunnaki God<br /> (The Uncorrupted Revelation as Experienced by John the Divine)</p> <p>The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein:</p> <p>John, grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.</p> <p>I, John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, what thou seest, write in a book.</p> <p>And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; and in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead.</p> <p>And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth and have the keys of hell and of death. Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter.</p> <p>These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: and hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.</p> <p>He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.</p> <p>He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith: To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of the living God, and the seven stars. Be watchful. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast. If therefore thou shalt not watch, thou shalt not know what hour I will come.</p> <p>He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith. These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.</p> <p>Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith.</p> <p>After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will show thee things which must be hereafter. And immediately I was in the spirit; and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.</p> <p>And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne. And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. The book was shining white with a life-sized image of the Lamb on the front. The book was taller than it was wide. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?</p> <p>And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not.</p> <p>And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb having the seven Spirits of the living God. And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels of Light round about the throne saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb.</p> <p>And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder. And I saw, and behold Jesus, majestically radiant, and clothed in white raiment and he had a sword; and a warrior’s protective helmet was given unto him.</p> <p>And he opened the second seal. And there went out a rider in brown raiment on a horse that was light chestnut brown: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.</p> <p>And when he opened the third seal I beheld, and lo another rider in black raiment on a black horse; and he that sat on him held in his hand a black lantern that shineth not.</p> <p>And he opened the fourth seal. And I looked, and behold a rider in silvery-grey raiment upon a grey horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.</p> <p>And three of the riders had with them huge armies. The army led by the rider on the brown horse was exceedingly strong and fresh. The rider on the black horse fell to the ground, as if dead. Then cometh the rider in the silvery-grey raiment to lift up the black rider. The black rider and his army mingled with the silvery-grey army led by the rider in silvery-grey raiment. Together, they fought against the rider in brown raiment and its army. The army of the silvery-grey rider and the army led by the rider in black raiment were determined yet tired. As the brown, black and silvery-grey armies engaged in battle, Jesus calmly watched on.</p> <p>And when he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of the living God, and for the testimony which they held: And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season until their fellowservants also and their brethren join them.</p> <p>And I beheld when he opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the Lamb: For the great day is come; and who shall be able to stand?</p> <p>And after these things I saw four angels of Darkness standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.</p> <p>And I saw an angel of Light ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels of Darkness, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our living God in their foreheads.</p> <p>After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; and cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation from our living God which sitteth upon the throne, and from the Lamb. And the Lamb showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.</p> <p>In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.</p> <p>And when he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven. And I saw the seven angels of Light which stood before the living God; and to them were given seven trumpets. And there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.</p> <p>And the seven angels of Light which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. The first angel of Light sounded its warning of peril from Darkness, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: And the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.</p> <p>And the second angel of Light sounded its warning of peril from Darkness, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; and the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.</p> <p>And the third angel of Light sounded its warning of peril from Darkness, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.</p> <p>And the fourth angel of Light sounded its warning of peril from Darkness, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.</p> <p>And I beheld, and heard an angel of Light flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels of Light, which are yet to sound their warnings!</p> <p>And the fifth angel of Light sounded its warning of peril from Darkness, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to an angel of Darkness was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.</p> <p>And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.</p> <p>And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.</p> <p>One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.</p> <p>And the sixth angel of Light sounded its warning of peril from Darkness, and I heard a voice saying to the sixth angel of Light which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels of Light who were imprisoned by Darkness which are bound in the great river Euphrates. And the four angels of Light were loosed.</p> <p>And the seventh angel of Light sounded its warning of peril from Darkness. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.</p> <p>And thus I saw the three horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.</p> <p>The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.</p> <p>And I saw a mighty angel of Light come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, and cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.</p> <p>And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write down those things which the seven thunders uttered, which were: The Lamb will defeat the dragon and its beast at the end of time in the battle of Armageddon.</p> <p>And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.</p> <p>And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him.</p> <p>And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against the living God, to blaspheme his name, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him.</p> <p>And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.</p> <p>And the angel of Light which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever and ever that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel of Light, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of the Anunnaki God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.</p> <p>And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth. And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.</p> <p>And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.</p> <p>And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1470#post-28443 Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:39:51 +0000 dattaswami 28443@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>The happy moments of this world are also temporary and they give you lot of worry after sometime. Suppose you love your son. That love stays in your heart. Later on when your son insults you, you feel very much worried and the cause of your worry is only your love for your son. Therefore, all the matters concerned with this world will either worry you in the beginning or at the end. So scholars close their mind to all matters of the world and open their mind to all matters of God. This is the real and permanent art of living. In a temporary art of living, the mind is closed to only those worldly matters, which are worrying in the beginning itself, while the mind is open to those worldly matters, which give happiness in the beginning. In such a temporary art of living, life ends with grief alone, since all worldly matters end only with grief.</p> <p>At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami</p> <p>Anil Antony</p> <p><a href="http://www.universal-spirituality.org" rel="nofollow">www.universal-spirituality.org</a><br /> Universal Spirituality for World Peace </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1469#post-28442 Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:39:15 +0000 dattaswami 28442@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>You are treating God just as an outsider</p> <p>There are three strong bonds for a human being:</p> <p>1) Bond with husband or wife</p> <p>2) Bond with children</p> <p>3) Bond with money</p> <p>The bond with money is the strongest of all the three bonds since all your relatives depend on you only due to financial reasons. Vashishtha said to Rama ‘Dhana Mula Midam Jagat’ which means that money is the root of this entire world. When money and God compete with each other, money alone succeeds since people worship God only for money. They want money from God and they want to give that money to their children. Out of that money, they do not give even a little to God. Even if they give some money to God, they want several times more from God in return. If you give some money to God’s work, without aspiring for anything in return, you are viewed very highly in the eyes of God. Donation of money proves your real love. </p> <p>You are giving all your money to your children. So your real love is only for your children. You have served them in their childhood. When they become adults, even if they do not serve you in return or even if they insult you, you are giving all your property to them alone. But in the case of God, you are not giving even one rupee to God, doubting whether He will help you after taking this one rupee in advance. You are treating God just as an outsider. He is nowhere near your children.<br /> At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami</p> <p>Anil Antony</p> <p><a href="http://www.universal-spirituality.org" rel="nofollow">www.universal-spirituality.org</a><br /> Universal Spirituality for World Peace </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1368#post-27758 Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:43:53 +0000 Starss 27758@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>The individual portion of soul is busily taking care of individual stuff, though<br /> in dreams bleeds through to the individual and if the individual listens, informs<br /> the individual of more information.<br /> You could arrange to converse with your soul...and bring that which was hidden<br /> forth into the light. You could access this information through hypnosis if you<br /> wished. What you realize is your choice. Your soul will not enforce information<br /> to you, if you did not believe you could, did not believe in this information,<br /> or were told not to do so because some terrible result could occur.<br /> In depth: I believe in reincarnation, have experienced several lives and know<br /> that this is so.<br /> A close relative does not believe this and so no information of that sort can<br /> be shared. A closed mind closes off information that could be learned. So even<br /> though I have shared several lives with this individual and would share this<br /> knowledge, the relative insists I not discuss it, EVER. I comply. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1368#post-27748 Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:26:49 +0000 shin 27748@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>So there is a soul, a supersoul and a supreme soul?</p> <p>The soul know nothing, the supersoul knows something and presumably the supreme soul knows everything?</p> <p>And the supersoul waits patiently for the soul to realize that the supersoul exists, which may or may not let the soul realise, by means of mediation of the supersoul, that there is a supreme soul?</p> <p>Is this how it works? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1368#post-27747 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:28:25 +0000 David 27747@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>I have read the Gita..... thank you Star, and can understand why your heading 'Soul is not God'</p> <p>From what I understand of this book there are two souls within the heart one is the soul that reincarnated into whatever past conditioning was present although you can redeem the souls from eternal birth and death by chanting the name of Lord Krishna at the moment of death..... the last thing you do/think of before death is what you reincarnate into, just imagine having a body like Krishna!!!!</p> <p>this 'human' soul is of course limited by its conditioning and as such is prone to forgetting, in fact it cannot remember past lives let alone its position or relation to the Lord, this is where the other soul comes into play, the thread discussing two birds in a tree, one watching(without intervention)the other eating, </p> <p>This is termed the supersoul in the Gita and is an extension of Lord Krishna or it has a direct personal link to the supreme soul, this supersouls purpose is to patiently wait for you to awaken to the human souls position by guiding you to look at the watching bird and realise yourself</p> <p>I claim nothing but read what I have read and this is my understanding.......... nothing more </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1375#post-27745 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:05:41 +0000 dattaswami 27745@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Why human incarnation generally hesitant to perform miracles?</p> <p>It is very difficult to accept the human incarnation while alive. Only very few blessed souls who are already liberated and accompanied the Lord to help Him in His mission can recognize and serve the living human form of God. The repulsion to accept a co-human being even as a greater person is very difficult. Then you can never imagine any human being to accept another human being as greatest God. The human form of God is just similar to any human being.</p> <p>If any specialty is exhibited, people fear and run away. To become close to the human beings, no specialty should be exhibited. If the closeness is achieved, the recognition is lost. To get recognition if some super natural aspect is exhibited, the closeness is lost. Between closeness and recognition, which is better to be retained at the cost of the other? The recognition destroys the freedom to discuss with the Lord and clarify the doubts.</p> <p>When Krishna was looking as an ordinary human being, Arjuna bombarded Him with all questions and clarified His doubts. However, when Krishna was in the state of cosmic form (Viswarupam), Arjuna shivered with fear and no question could come out. The brain was blocked with shock and even the doubts did not arise. When the doubts remain un-cleared, the ignorance continues. Therefore closeness is better than recognition. </p> <p>The husband hears the advices from the wife in close association. Therefore through closeness, even if the identification is not there, the soul can be guided into the right path through convincing the soul by preaching. Instead of convincing the soul by exhibiting the super power, which induces the conviction though fear, it is better to induce the conviction through the super talent exhibited in preaching. Even if you think of the human incarnation as a preacher (Guru), there is nothing wrong. If you do not recognize Him as God, His crown has not fallen on the ground.</p> <p>I will just give an example. One woman was a very close devotee. She even used to argue and fight with Me on the points of the spiritual knowledge. One day, she quarreled with Me for not showing any divine vision. The Lord in Me gave a shocking vision of God Dattatreya. She became unconscious for one hour and even got a mild heart attack. From that day onwards, whenever she comes to Me, she is always with terrible fear. She simply accepts whatever I preach. The recognition has come but the closeness is lost. </p> <p>Therefore Jesus said, “Those who believed Me without proof are really blessed”. This means that the devotees who recognized the Lord through the knowledge always have close freedom and clarify all their doubts and hence they are blessed. They gain the complete devotion. If the proof is shown, the closeness is lost and the gap appears. The doubts are not cleared due to fear. Neither the devotee nor the God enjoys the close association. </p> <p>The realization will never come because the ignorance remains due to un-cleared doubts. Therefore the theoretical recognition arrived through the knowledge is always the best. The practical proof develops not only fear but also the attitude to fulfill the desires and solve the problems using the divine power. The attention is diverted from the path of realization. The real bond of love can never be formed. If the power is recognized, the whole situation is diverted. The mentality is always towards tapping the powers towards personal solutions. </p> <p>The commercial bond grows. The friendship becomes more and more intensive if the qualities of the human form of God become more and more similar. I heard some people telling that Sri Satya Sai was printing notes and smuggling the foreign goods! I told them that this allegation is false in the case of Sri Satya Sai, but I told them that in future God has to come in human form with such talents also so that the smugglers approach Him closely and slowly get salvation. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1374#post-27744 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:04:50 +0000 dattaswami 27744@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>MP3 voice message of divine knowledge of Shri Dattaswami-1</p> <p><a href="http://www.esnips.com/doc/dfccc9c9-7e0a-43bd-9b5b-4f15cc949203/Realize-the-main-aim-of-this-human-life" rel="nofollow">http://www.esnips.com/doc/dfccc9c9-7e0a-43bd-9b5b-4f15cc949203/Realize-the-main-aim-of-this-human-life</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.esnips.com/doc/7286bfaf-dc41-4d8f-ad9d-bf7b3dc8fa80/Types-of-people-dealt-by-God" rel="nofollow">http://www.esnips.com/doc/7286bfaf-dc41-4d8f-ad9d-bf7b3dc8fa80/Types-of-people-dealt-by-God</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.esnips.com/doc/71628e92-52b0-44cc-ba7c-0d0cd46af087/Why-people-insult-and-neglect-the-human-incarnation" rel="nofollow">http://www.esnips.com/doc/71628e92-52b0-44cc-ba7c-0d0cd46af087/Why-people-insult-and-neglect-the-human-incarnation</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.esnips.com/doc/01a179c6-0e02-4883-b939-75f6c94f7415/Unity-of-Religions" rel="nofollow">http://www.esnips.com/doc/01a179c6-0e02-4883-b939-75f6c94f7415/Unity-of-Religions</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.esnips.com/doc/5ac05971-45bc-4370-96c4-9ea7c2715695/Is-it-possible-for-God-to-come-in-Human-form" rel="nofollow">http://www.esnips.com/doc/5ac05971-45bc-4370-96c4-9ea7c2715695/Is-it-possible-for-God-to-come-in-Human-form</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.esnips.com/doc/17362bd5-8f65-4150-ab45-356c1325ce1f/I-am-very-much-anxious-to-get-a-child-and-good-health" rel="nofollow">http://www.esnips.com/doc/17362bd5-8f65-4150-ab45-356c1325ce1f/I-am-very-much-anxious-to-get-a-child-and-good-health</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.esnips.com/doc/aed44f78-5fc4-4fd2-a538-cdf885259b25/Devotion" rel="nofollow">http://www.esnips.com/doc/aed44f78-5fc4-4fd2-a538-cdf885259b25/Devotion</a> </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1373#post-27743 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:04:14 +0000 dattaswami 27743@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>The line of action of Lord in Human form</p> <p>People often say that if we worship Lord Datta (the Lord in human form), He gives troubles to us. Yes, it is true. But, if you know what is really happening, you will jump and fall at the feet of Lord Datta. Do you know what is He actually doing? He drags all the results that you were going to receive in the future, to the present. Then He undergoes 90% of those punishments on His human body. You have to receive only 10% of the results of your sins. Since you have committed the sins in the past, you have to undergo atleast a little of it; it is only minimum justice. You are paying only 10% now while 100% of your sins are getting cleared. Thus your future life is cleared of all results of sins and remains full of happiness.</p> <p>The pain of the operation performed by the doctor is temporary and you are going to enjoy a happy life in the future since the disease is fully cured.</p> <p>“Dattam Chhinnam” means “Datta cuts”. What does this mean? It means that He operates upon you and removes your sins completely. He clears all your future debts. He pays 90% and makes you pay only 10%. However, you do not understand this and take the 10% paid by you as a loss given to you by Lord Datta. To clear this misunderstanding, you may think, “Why does Datta not clearly reveal the facts?” But no; He will not reveal this secret. If He were to reveal it, everyone would naturally love Him and such a love is not true love. If someone benefits you and therefore you love him, it is but natural. But if someone is troubling you and you are still able to love him, then that is real love; e.g. the love shown by you for your troublesome son. So, Lord Datta appears as if He is troubling you. Although He is really helping you, He hides this fact. This is called “The Test of Datta (Datta Pariksha)”.</p> <p>A doctor comes with a knife to cut open your stomach and remove your ulcer. Do you mistake him to be a murderer? Lord Datta will not reveal the truth to you so that He can see whether you have real confidence in Him or not. </p> <p>Your faith and love for Him must be to such a level that you should think, “Even if He murders me, I will gladly die, because how sweet it is to die at His hands!” Bhishma thought similarly, when Lord Datta in the form of Krishna, rushed towards him to kill him in the battle of Mahabharata. So, worship Lord Datta, even if He gives troubles, because, they will give you permanent happiness like the operation done by a doctor. Like a doctor, Lord Datta, always sees your welfare only. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1372#post-27742 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:03:38 +0000 dattaswami 27742@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Whether Jesus married Mary Magdalene</p> <p>Some people say that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and most of the people say that Jesus was a bachelor. Similarly in Hinduism, most of the people say that Hanuman is a bachelor but some say that He married Suvarchala. This argument is unnecessary because God comes down in human form to attract all types of the souls to uplift them. The main aim of the human form is that He wants to become very close to the human beings. If the qualities of the human form are also matching, the human beings get more and more attracted and the Lord can become more and more close to the human beings. Therefore, the human form of God contains similar qualities of the human beings into which He is entering.</p> <p>The human being is made of the three qualities. The quality is a thought or feeling and is a wave of the awareness. Awareness itself is dynamic and is a work form. The quality is also kinetic energy and is work form. The inert energy is transformed into awareness and the inert energy, which is the same primary energy in the form of cosmos, is also dynamic and work of God. All the modifications of the primary energy (Matter, awareness, light, heat etc.) are also work forms only. Therefore everything in this world starting from a feeling or quality up to the primary cosmic energy is work form only. Therefore, it is said that the world is made of the three qualities which are just the feelings of God only. </p> <p>The entire world is the imagination of God and therefore the quality or feeling forms the world. The human body in which God is hidden is the human incarnation. The human body consisting of matter, energy and feelings is the medium which is relatively real with respect to God. The worker is God and the creation is the work. Therefore, anything in the world is unreal from the point of God. Therefore, it makes no difference whether the human incarnation is a bachelor or married. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1371#post-27741 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:56:31 +0000 dattaswami 27741@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Veda says that God created this Universe only for entertainment<br /> The analysis to know that God is beyond analysis is also analysis only. Therefore, the direct meaning of the word Aakasha Deepam is that God is unimaginable, since He is beyond spatial dimensions. The extension of this concept is useful to the spiritual aspirant. The entire creation is within the dimensions of Space. Since God is beyond Space, it automatically means that God is beyond creation (Neti Neti…). He is not the creation. He is only the supporter of creation. Pot is not mud. Mud is the supporter of the pot. If God is creation, the purpose of creation is lost. Veda says that God created this Universe only for entertainment (Ekaaki Naramate…).</p> <p> If God is the creation itself, again God becomes alone and cannot have any entertainment. For entertainment only, He wanted a second item, which must be different from Him (Sadviteeyamaichchat). The support is quite different from the supported item. You cannot say that both are one and the same. Entertainment is of two types. In the first type, you see the drama from outside. In the second type, you enter the drama in a role and entertain yourself. While acting in a role, you are also seeing the entire drama. If you are the single actor and become everything in the drama, you cannot have any entertainment. If you become everything, there is no possibility of entering the drama. Veda says that God entered the creation (Tat Srustva Tadevaanu Praavishat). </p> <p>Unless the creation is different from God, how can He enter the creation? One cannot enter himself. If you bring the statement of Veda that all this creation is Brahma (Sarvam Khalvidam Brahma…), this contradicts the other Vedic statement, which says that nothing in the Creation is God (Neti Neti…, Nedam tat…). Hence, the word Brahma in the first statement must have a different meaning other than God.</p> <p>At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami</p> <p>Anil Antony</p> <p><a href="http://www.universal-spirituality.org" rel="nofollow">www.universal-spirituality.org</a><br /> Universal Spirituality for World Peace </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1370#post-27740 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:54:45 +0000 dattaswami 27740@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>God enters the creation in the form of a human being</p> <p>Brahma means anything, which is greatest among the items of a category. Veda is said to be Brahma by Gita (Brahmaakshara Samudbhavam…). Similarly, food is Brahma, respiration is Brahma, mind is Brahma, intelligence is Brahma etc., are the statements of Veda. This Knowledge is supported by the above concept also, because the imaginable creation cannot be the unimaginable God. God enters the creation in the form of a human being. In that human being God exists. The support enters into a supported item. You need not think that the other items of the creation have lost the support because the support entered into one item only. This problem comes only when the support is having spatial dimensions. Since God is beyond spatial dimensions, this problem does not arise. </p> <p>Without understanding this concept, some people feel that a part of the support only entered the particular item. The concept of ‘whole’ and ‘part’ again requires spatial dimensions. Therefore, God being the support of the entire creation can also exist in a particular petty item simultaneously. Now the particular item into which God entered is identified as God similar to an electric wire identified as electricity. Identification includes both monism (Advaita) and dualism (Dvaita).</p> <p> The electric wire is current because you are experiencing current by touching the wire anywhere and therefore, monism is true. Even then, wire is wire and current is current and therefore, dualism is also true. Therefore, both Sankara and Ramanuja are correct, because the same truth is viewed in different angles. These angles exist only in an electric wire and not in a wire where there is no electricity. Therefore, it is meaningless to discuss about Advaita and Dvaita in the case of an ordinary soul, which is always separate without God like a wire without electricity. The Advaita philosophers should understand that the discussion about Advaita and Dvaita is confined to human incarnation only. </p> <p>At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami</p> <p>Anil Antony</p> <p><a href="http://www.universal-spirituality.org" rel="nofollow">www.universal-spirituality.org</a><br /> Universal Spirituality for World Peace </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1369#post-27739 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:53:59 +0000 dattaswami 27739@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>God never became imaginable</p> <p>When you experience God in human incarnation, God still remains unimaginable. Only the existence of unimaginable God is experienced and not God (asteetyeva…Veda). You have experienced the existence of current by touching the electric wire and this does not mean that you have understood the electricity. Hence, the experience of existence of unimaginable God does not mean that God became imaginable. You can have two or more electric wires simultaneously. Due to difference in the works like a wire for fan, a wire for tube light etc.</p> <p>Similarly, due to different programs, you can have many human incarnations simultaneously in the same time. If you mistake that a particular electric wire is only the current, then the problem comes. Here you have mistaken that the wire and current are one and the same. Here the knowledge of Dvaita is required. Then only you can understand that the same electricity is flowing in different wires. Some people think that a particular electric wire in the past (past human incarnation) alone is the current, even though that wire was destroyed and does not exist today. These people are many who think that a particular past human incarnation like Rama, Jesus, etc., alone is God. </p> <p>At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami</p> <p>Anil Antony</p> <p><a href="http://www.universal-spirituality.org" rel="nofollow">www.universal-spirituality.org</a><br /> Universal Spirituality for World Peace </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1368#post-27738 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:53:06 +0000 dattaswami 27738@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Soul is not God</p> <p>In the imaginable creation, both gross and subtle items exist. The subtle soul must be distinguished from the gross body. Both the soul and body are imaginable. The Advaita philosophers think that the soul is unimaginable God and the body alone is imaginable creation. Before the distinction between unimaginable God and imaginable creation, a prior training is given to distinguish imaginable-subtle-soul and imaginable-gross-body in the beginning chapter of Gita. This distinction gives training to the spiritual aspirant to become capable in distinguishing unimaginable God and imaginable creation.</p> <p> The subtle soul stands for unimaginable God but not actually is the unimaginable God.<br /> At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami</p> <p>Anil Antony</p> <p><a href="http://www.universal-spirituality.org" rel="nofollow">www.universal-spirituality.org</a><br /> Universal Spirituality for World Peace </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1367#post-27737 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:52:17 +0000 dattaswami 27737@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>God is absolutely unimaginable to the intelligence and analysis</p> <p>God is the generator of Space and Space is His first creation (Atmana akaashah…). God is just above the space, since God is the cause and space is the first effect. Mud is the cause and pot is the effect. Unless you destroy the pot, its cause, the lump of mud cannot be visualized. Unless space is dissolved God cannot be seen. </p> <p>You may try for millions of years to imagine the situation after dissolution of space. It is absolutely impossible to go beyond space. You can imagine anything with some minute spatial dimensions only, which may be very very small. Your intelligence is limited by spatial dimensions. It cannot cross the three co-ordinates, which are length, width and height called as spatial dimensions. This means, God is absolutely unimaginable to the intelligence and analysis (Yo Buddheh Paratah…). The analysis to know that God is beyond analysis is also analysis only. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1366#post-27736 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:51:34 +0000 dattaswami 27736@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Live worship of God Vs indirect worship<br /> There are two types of worship to God. In the first type, an object is selected to stand as a representative of God (Pratika Upasanam). In the second type, an object pervaded by God like electric wire is worshipped (Saakshat Upasanam). In both types of worship, you must treat the object as God and this is Advaita meant for devotees. In the first type of worship both living and inert objects can stand as representatives. A statue or a devotee can be worshipped. The extent of worship is limited in the case of the statue and is unlimited in the case of a devotee. You can give food, clothes, money, etc., to the devotee and these are not necessary for the statue. Only cleaning and decoration are required for the statue. God will never enter the inert objects (Natasya Pratima). He enters only the human being (Maanusheem tanumaasritam).<br /> Therefore, the extent of worship is unlimited in the case of a devotee or human incarnation. Hence, while worshipping you need not worry that whether he is a devotee or a human incarnation. Whether he is a devotee or a human incarnation, you should have full faith that he is God and the worship should be complete in all aspects. You need not do the complete worship for a statue. If you do so for a statue, the priest behind the statue will snatch away the fruits of your worship. If the priest is a real devotee, it is well and good since it becomes the first type of worship.<br /> At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami</p> <p>Anil Antony</p> <p><a href="http://www.universal-spirituality.org" rel="nofollow">www.universal-spirituality.org</a><br /> Universal Spirituality for World Peace </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1365#post-27735 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:50:59 +0000 dattaswami 27735@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Devotee Vs Human Incarnation</p> <p>The difference between a devotee and a human incarnation is that, God entered the devotee to become human incarnation. The devotee is a tree (body) and its bird (soul). In human incarnation this tree contains two birds (Soul and God). Whether he is a devotee or a human incarnation, the soul of devotee should be aware that it is not God and should pass on the credit to God. If the soul takes credit, even the human incarnation gets insulted by God as in the case of Parashurama. The devotee and human incarnation worshipped as God must be always in Dvaita. Every devotee has equal chance of becoming human incarnation. The devotee should rise to that level. Therefore, there is no need of any jealousy towards any human incarnation. Ego should never appear and God – bird will quit the tree as soon as even a trace of the smell of ego appears. 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To serve Him in His divine mission, you need the basic requirements like food, shelter etc. For that you need a job if you do not have sufficient support. Today the householders are not respecting the real monk because several mockers are there in the dress of monk. You must study well to secure a job. For all this, your life should exist and therefore, you should never think of the suicide under any circumstances. If you are turned to ultimate aim, all your problems will be solved by God. You must have full faith in Him and infinite patience because God always has a special style of helping His devotee through an unimaginable way and that too in the last fraction of the last second. Your faith should not vibrate even if that last fraction of last second has also gone, because He can change the past, present and future in any way.</p> <p> He can take the present into past, past into present, future into present and future into the past. For God, after all, the time is also a relative reality like space. For some, the ultimate aim is the pleasure of the self or pleasure of the family. A person who aims at the self-pleasure is worst. A person who sacrifices his pleasure for the sake of the family is a better soul because the concept of sacrifice has started in it. But such soul should analyze and realize that the other souls will not even recognize it after leaving these gross bodies here. Thus, the ultimate aim should be divine, aiming at the God. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1359#post-27657 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:47:51 +0000 dattaswami 27657@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>The devotion will lead you to the abode of God. </p> <p>The good works will lead you to heaven temporarily. The bad works will lead you to hell temporarily till you are transformed at least to a large extent. You may enter even the permanent liquid fire or hell for your endless sin, where you have to stay till you are completely transformed. The devotion (practical service without aspiration of any fruit in return) will lead you to the abode of God. If your devotion is limited to the energetic forms of the upper world or the past human incarnations, you have to return back from the abode of the God (Abrahma Bhuvanat..Gita). If your devotion is limited to your contemporary human incarnation, you will reach the abode of God forever (Yat Gatva na nivartante…Gita). Of course, you will be coming to the earth in human form along with the God in human form to assist Him in His mission so that you are in the permanent association of God. </p> <p>At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami</p> <p>Anil Antony</p> <p><a href="http://www.universal-spirituality.org" rel="nofollow">www.universal-spirituality.org</a><br /> Universal Spirituality for World Peace </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1358#post-27656 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:43:52 +0000 dattaswami 27656@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Spiritual knowledge is the most complicated path</p> <p>Brahma Vidya or Brahma Jnanam or spiritual knowledge is the most complicated path and even to achieve the correct knowledge is hectic affair (Kashinmamvetti…. Gita). Correct knowledge is the first step and even in this first step, lot of complications exist and people are mislead even in this first step. The whole complication lies only in one point i.e., you must conquer your ego and jealousy completely and recognize the contemporary human incarnation existing before your eyes acting as an ordinary human being and some times acting as worst human being. You have to recognize God beyond good and bad. God is possessor of the world in which both good and bad exist. God is not touched by the world and therefore good and bad do not touch Him. He can expose good or bad but He is not touched by both. </p> <p>The world is like a shirt, which cannot be His characteristic like His skin. The good and bad are like the different colors of His shirt and they are not the colors of His skin. The white color of His shirt is not the white color of His skin. He is in the white shirt and He is beyond the white shirt. Seeing the color of white shirt, you will decide that He is white and approach Him as a good person. In the case of the individual soul, your analysis is correct because the individual soul is a bundle of qualities. The individual soul is the shirt itself. Therefore, the individual soul is white or good. Similarly, the individual soul is black or bad. But in the case of the human incarnation, God is beyond white and black colors, who is unimaginable. When you approach Him, He will change His white shirt and puts on black shirt. You will think that He is black and you will run away. All your spiritual knowledge must be used to distinguish a really black man and a colorless person wearing black shirt.</p> <p> This is a test for your knowledge of discrimination and your faith about your identification of God. It is also a practical test for your value of God over the other worldly values including the value of your life. Thus, your identification of God in a human being who looks like ordinary human being is the first step. The faith in such identification is tested on exhibition of bad qualities. If your faith remains, the extent of faith is tested through the extent of value given to God over other worldly values. </p>