http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ Collection of Thoughts Tag: heaven en Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:05:39 +0000 http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235/page/2#post-15251 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:39:41 +0000 SoulBrother 15251@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>There is Infinite Being, Creator, God, what ever you wish to phrase in all that is and all that is not. Just open your heart as well as your mind to this and evidence is abundant. We listen yet do not hear the voice which is sometimes felt more then heard. Many times and in many ways does God interact with us.<br /> We are God and God is us, and never shall the two be seperate. We may just be celestial forms in a terestrial body.<br /> remember one thing about prayer. It is the sponsoring thought that is listened to. The thought behind the thought as you would have it. God has given us the ability to be Masters of Our Fate, if we listen and learn not to blame God and others for our short comings.</p> <p>Namaste </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235/page/2#post-14971 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:41:32 +0000 AsI 14971@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>There is no 'God; outside you. What is looking Now is what you are looking for-but you are not 'God'. What you will find is... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235/page/2#post-14935 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:20:08 +0000 selfseeker 14935@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>[Selfseeker, how about that you don't have authority over your fever.]</p> <p>You missed my point. I had no doubt that I had no authority over my fever. I thought that God had the authority &#38; he would help me if I chanted those sacred texts. After all, God is supposed to help when we pray, right ? This was in response to this forced faith : "GOD never betray us". </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235/page/2#post-14911 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:02:25 +0000 David 14911@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Nosce te ipsum. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235/page/2#post-14895 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:10:02 +0000 MINDANDHEART 14895@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Selseeker, how about that you don't have authority over your fever.<br /> If you meet a strange man on the street and you ask him to wash your car, he wouldn't even listen to you.<br /> But if you tell one of your servants, wash my car, it gets washed immediately.<br /> Maybe something to think about. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235/page/2#post-14860 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:48:39 +0000 selfseeker 14860@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>[GOD is our true friends , because not like human that sometime betray and cheat us , GOD never betray us.]</p> <p>This must have been told to you by the priest. In my childhood, once I had fever &#38; my father told me that if I chant some holy texts again &#38; again, my fever will go. I did that with full devotion non-stop &#38; you know what .... my fever increased ! :lol: </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235/page/2#post-14846 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:00:47 +0000 MINDANDHEART 14846@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>God for sure can be known, the son also can be known, the holy spirit can be known,<br /> The Holy trinity can be known too.<br /> But we have inherited the rejection of the truth long ago, even those who witnessed miracles found it hard accepting the truth as is.<br /> God is not a friend. but is more than that. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/380#post-8438 Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:56:12 +0000 starlight 8438@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>last time i checked, star was not a man... :) </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/380#post-8093 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:28:49 +0000 nicola 8093@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>I think he speaks for most of us... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/380#post-7942 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:53:58 +0000 vivekmudgal1983 7942@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>beautiful </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/380#post-7917 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:41:52 +0000 starlight 7917@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>wonder if he was speaking of himself... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/380#post-7916 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:20:14 +0000 starlight 7916@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>cool... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/380#post-7914 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:48:27 +0000 nicola 7914@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>There's a race of men that don't fit in,<br /> A race that can't stay still;<br /> So they break the hearts of kith and kin,<br /> And they roam the world at will.<br /> They range the field and they rove the flood,<br /> And they climb the mountain's crest;<br /> Theirs is the curse of the gypsy blood,<br /> And they don't know how to rest.</p> <p>If they just went straight they might go far;<br /> They are strong and brave and true;<br /> But they're always tired of the things that are,<br /> And they want the strange and new.<br /> They say: "Could I find my proper groove,<br /> What a deep mark I would make!"<br /> So they chop and change, and each fresh move<br /> Is only a fresh mistake.</p> <p>And each forgets, as he strips and runs<br /> With a brilliant, fitful pace,<br /> It's the steady, quiet, plodding ones<br /> Who win in the lifelong race.<br /> And each forgets that his youth has fled,<br /> Forgets that his prime is past,<br /> Till he stands one day, with a hope that's dead,<br /> In the glare of the truth at last.</p> <p>Robert W. Service<br /> Jan. 16, 1874 - Sept. 11, 1958</p> <p>Dedicated to preserving the memory and poetry of Robert W. Service.<br /> <a href="http://www.robertwservice.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.robertwservice.com/</a> </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5243 Tue, 01 May 2007 22:44:57 +0000 knowself 5243@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Jimi is so much better...</p> <p>I used to live in a room full of mirrors<br /> All I could see was me<br /> Then I take my spirit and I smash my mirrors<br /> And now the whole world is here for me to see<br /> Now Im searching for my love to be</p> <p>Seems the juice isn`t worth the squeeze in real life...Sooo see ya! </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5242 Tue, 01 May 2007 22:19:10 +0000 knowself 5242@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>AsI you are love(d)... nothing I said was meant as ill or to cause harm. If it has please forgive!</p> <p> Know that there is only ONE TEACHER.... Toto! And you are no more or less than any other you will ever meet! </p> <p>Knowself to self....</p> <p>I live in a house full of mirrors<br /> And all I can see is me.<br /> If I take out my trusty ole hammer,<br /> Will then I really be free?</p> <p>Ad libed from Hendrix </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5222 Tue, 01 May 2007 17:28:49 +0000 starlight 5222@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>till we meet again...dreamer...you will be missed...much love... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5219 Tue, 01 May 2007 17:23:27 +0000 AsI 5219@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Then one must ask: is saying and believing the same thing? Again, it matters not. I merely clarified for myself. </p> <p>I have decided to take a break from the forum. I have found for myself through another what I didn't know before. Speaking for myself, I know I am not the teacher that some others are on here nor do I presume that I have anything to share beyond what I have already. The forum holds different meaning for each, so again, it does not imply anything. Breaks are good. All is good. I know that each will always find what they seek. Being IS Now, but 'the yellow brick road' leads me always to 'your door'.</p> <p>Blessings and happiness,<br /> Asi </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5214 Tue, 01 May 2007 16:43:41 +0000 starlight 5214@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>who holds this belief? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5210 Tue, 01 May 2007 16:34:36 +0000 AsI 5210@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>"holding others high in ego's self-esteem...is to ensure their fall...and your disappointment...all ego games..."</p> <p>This statement can easily be misinterpreted. One can share thoughts and perceptions-all ego aside. You are also implying - ("if the edge of the clift appears...do not push another off of it...allow that one to make the jump themselves...we are but pointers") -that I am doing this to the other. That would put me 'above' the other and this was never the point I was making before or after the fact. Sharing does not have to be seen 'this' way. Such an 'enlightened' attitude (as the line presented)is exactly what I am speaking against, and it borders too closely to egotistical thinking for me to be not say something to it. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5204 Tue, 01 May 2007 16:00:44 +0000 starlight 5204@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Grace and Guru</p> <p>I have not said that a Guru is not necessary. But a Guru need not always be in human form. First a person thinks that he is an inferior and that there is a superior, all-knowing, all powerful God who controls his own and the world's destiny and worships him or does Bhakti. When he reaches a certain stage and becomes fit for enlightenment, the same God whom he was worshipping comes as Guru and leads him on. That Guru comes only to tell him that ‘God is within yourself. Dive within and realize.’ God, Guru and the Self are the same</p> <p>The Bhagavan Sri (RM) </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5203 Tue, 01 May 2007 15:59:21 +0000 starlight 5203@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>dreamer...the safety net of peace is very nice no? :)</p> <p>everyone is my teacher...</p> <p>if the edge of the clift appears...do not push another off of it...allow that one to make the jump themselves...we are but pointers...your path is not my path...true it is a pathless path...and different for each...</p> <p>holding others high in ego's self-esteem...is to ensure their fall...and your disappointment...all ego games... </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5198 Tue, 01 May 2007 15:45:20 +0000 AsI 5198@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>It matters not really for myself. You are my dear friend, Knowself. I question simply as to why my sincerity was questioned in itself and compared to doubt. It can be unfortunate, at least in my opinion, that many settle for where they are at and end on the note of Being. Yes, Being, and the heaven of Now, but again, to presume that there is not more to know is like staying in a safety zone that is seen to be true and this is done without question. A full cup has no room for more-and there is more. Two of the greatest teachers that I have ever met just happen to be on this forum. However, individuals resist them because of their own egos. I have witnessed this repeatedly. I was one who did this myself, but I am glad that I stopped resisting and began to listen. I found that there is more to know and that what is learned is very real. To each their own though. To question the thoughts of another is healthy-but to question their sincerity may be a misperception. Anyway, blessings to you and thank-you for allowing me to say what I have. What I have found to be in myself is no less in you.</p> <p>Asi </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5187 Tue, 01 May 2007 13:04:04 +0000 AsI 5187@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>So much for "sincerity". "Conditioning" is "conditioning" no matter what the source. (That's a value statement and only the ego-structure makes value statements.)</p> <p>"The mind doesnt know the mind." Such a statement can only come from one who believes this. What is the point of sharing if we each 'know it all'? What is the point of the forum then: To constantly agree with each other or to present ourselves as 'right'? New thoughts are simply called "conditioning". Judgements are made on "sincerity". Who wants the forum to repeat this "already know it" ego-stance? So, another must not be sincere to present new insights? "Doubt" is cast as weakness. And the pattern appears consistently across the board. So, why share insights at all? This in itself is an insight. That leaves the forum with no real purpose-at least for myself. If this were an isolated case, it would be different. Since I have no desire to change the thoughts of another then I will leave the circular ego-dance to itself. But, it is a question to everyone, and not just insight for myself. If you know it all, then why are you here? Intertainment? To reflect yourself? To hear yourself think? To save another? To prove yourself right, or to judge another as lacking sincerity simply by 'doubt'? So, one shares for no real reason except that one is 'right'. Yes, this seems 'sincere' indeed. If this is the best that anyone has to offer then this forum is the 'right' place to be. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5186 Tue, 01 May 2007 02:25:32 +0000 AsI 5186@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>So much so sincerity.. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5182 Tue, 01 May 2007 01:16:45 +0000 starlight 5182@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>knowy... :) </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5179 Tue, 01 May 2007 01:04:27 +0000 knowself 5179@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our... "conscious contact"... with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry it out.</p> <p>:) </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5178 Tue, 01 May 2007 00:52:57 +0000 starlight 5178@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>all of your recent posts have really been resonating with my understanding of self realization (for lack of a better term)...maybe it is that common bond that we share...but also, Ramana Marishna speaks of that state of peace...within...and the ability to see through the heart...without the mind...or at least that is what i have gotten from it...maybe because i am experiencing this state on a very regular basis...and i feel that coming from you also...i love Chuck C.'s new pair of glasses...even though AA encourages one to choose a god of their own understanding, Chuck verifies that he spoke to Bill W. concerning this god...and originally, this god of their understanding was in one and all...once peace has become a state of being...well, that is enough for this one... :)</p> <p>this is what RM has said on the matter...</p> <p>Self - Realization</p> <p>The state we call realization is simply being oneself, not knowing anything or becoming anything. If one has realized, he is that which alone is, and which alone has always been. He cannot describe that state. He can only be That. Of course, we loosely talk of Self-realization for want of a better term. </p> <p>That which is, is peace. All that we need do is to keep quiet. Peace is our real nature. We spoil it. What is required is that we cease to spoil it. </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5177 Tue, 01 May 2007 00:44:33 +0000 knowself 5177@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Star...no mind in being... thought yes, when needed. The database(memory), logic unit and imagination are tools. But not the thing. Action...reponse...awareness. Seen yes! Abided in NO! </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5176 Tue, 01 May 2007 00:37:33 +0000 knowself 5176@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>Yes! The soul of creation...void/unvoid... looking so to speak at the other that doesn`t exist. In between real and reality. The Knowing a choice is made to enter into<br /> creation.</p> <p>Problem is how to describe the undescrible without reverting to memory. Truth is not memorized but re-cognized.</p> <p>Twice now sincerity has been mentioned... a doubt maybe. Conditioning is conditioning no matter the source. Ever listen to AA folks. All sound the same huh? However better an AA parrot than a barstool parrot.</p> <p>Star anything but? :) </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/235#post-5174 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:32:06 +0000 starlight 5174@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>knowy...did you mean a sense of being that the mind does not know? </p>