http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ Collection of Thoughts Topic: The absolute knowledge of the absolute God is impossible en Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:37:37 +0000 http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1275#post-25653 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:11:37 +0000 GrimNexus 25653@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>you know,<br /> it should be impossible to even know that god exists, if what you say was really complete.<br /> and btw, it is impossible for you to even know that god exists.<br /> Good thing that you--or anything for that matter--is not really as it appears to be.</p> <p>If you think that you can know that God even exists, then you have not accepted that God is UNIMAGINABLE. ie. You have not accepted what finite really means.</p> <p>---<br /> look you said:<br /> "The only information about the absolute God is that God exists. “Aum Tat Sat” means that God exists and no more information about God is available. The word Tat means that God is beyond your imagination. The word Aum denotes that God is the creator, ruler and destroyer of this world. These three adjectives indicate the works (Creation, rule and destruction) of God only and not the nature of the God. This is called as the information about the existence only (Sanmatra vada)."</p> <p>If you proclaim that this is the case, and only the works of God can be known, and not the nature of the God, that is actually a contradiction. If you can know the works of God--in any degree--then the very barrier that seperates the works of God and the nature of the God, can actually be known then.<br /> If the very barrier that seperates God's works and the nature of the God can be known--ie. if you even know there is a barrier, which you said there is--then learning everything about the barrier, will reveal the nature of God when the barrier is dropped.<br /> You will be able to drop the barrier, because you know everything that the nature of God is not; therefore, upon knowing the exact barrier, how can it be impossible to get around, when you already know the whole barrier?<br /> ie. When you know the whole barrier, then there is no longer a need to even try to go around it, you already know the way.</p> <p>---<br /> This of course, is all based on the claim that you made, where you said that we can actually know "God's works".<br /> Are you saying for certain, that we can know God's works? </p> http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/topic/1275#post-25567 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:22:03 +0000 dattaswami 25567@http://collectionofthoughts.com/bbpress/ <p>The absolute knowledge of the absolute God is impossible</p> <p> The absolute knowledge of the absolute God is impossible because the absolute God is unimaginable. The absolute God comes in human form to give you the experience of His existence, in absence of which, you may deny the very existence of the absolute God and may become atheist (Astityeva….Veda). The identification of the human form in which the absolute God exists is the knowledge of God (Brahma Jnanam or Brahma Vidya). </p> <p> The experience of the existence of the absolute God does not reveal any trace of the nature of the absolute God and hence God is always unimaginable. The only information about the absolute God is that God exists. “Aum Tat Sat” means that God exists and no more information about God is available. The word Tat means that God is beyond your imagination. The word Aum denotes that God is the creator, ruler and destroyer of this world. These three adjectives indicate the works (Creation, rule and destruction) of God only and not the nature of the God. This is called as the information about the existence only (Sanmatra vada). God comes in human form, which is characterized by the awareness or chit. </p> <p>At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami</p> <p>Anil Antony</p> <p><a href="http://www.universal-spirituality.org" rel="nofollow">www.universal-spirituality.org</a><br /> Universal Spirituality for World Peace </p>