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1. David
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   There are those times when listening to someone when they say something that has a profound meaning yet was in a sentence and completely missed.

   One of these sentences that keeps ringing in this mind is "It came out of nowhere"

   although its typical wording to describe an event it non the less makes you aware of that 'space' inside that is forever present, I look at other people to see what they are saying about myself, ie, its in you if you recognise it in others. 'It came ot of nowhere' is just one of many little truths that turn up every now and then and is something I now look out for

   Posted 5 months ago #

2. abstractprophet
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   david,,, big ups every time.

   what comes and what goes?

   yet,,,,,,

   what is it that neither comes or goes?

   respect

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3. chip
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   David this expression tickles me " I believe in nothing"

   Or....'there's nothing to it"

   How about " nothing ventured, nothing gained "

   Hello Abby, how are things in Oz? : )

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4. abstractprophet
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   Or.... life is so easy it appears hard,,, at times. lol

   Is It?

   :o)

   Hi chip, :o)

   To be honest been a little loose and struggling lately with my girls up north while I toil until we are together again (in body). 2 more weeks.

   Although, it has been perfect in what is needed right now though. It would appear the worm constantly turns. Even if it does not. Hard to not see that. lol

   Got another youth in production. :o)

   Sincerely,,, I love all at cot.

   :o)

   blah blah blah

   another wicket down in the cricket. lol

   Go the Aussies

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5. David
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   There is another one thats quite cool to listen too when people inadvertently speak the truth...

   "Nothing ever happens to me"

   'Seems like thats all you need right now' is my reply (smile)

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6. Star
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   as long as there is no attachment to even 'nothing'...that is key here. in my experience, even believing in nothing, is believing in something, so, these sayings that speak to nothing, are speaking to something...

   there is a verse in the AA big book something to the tune of, 'either we believe that God is everything, or that God is nothing...'

   well, it is untrue to say that both are true, or that either are true, or that neither are true...what is true, is that the mind cannot wrap itself around the truth of this, leaving the mind 'nowhere' to go, not even to go 'nowhere'...lol

   it cannot be said definitively that 'nothing' exists, nor can it be said definitively that 'something' exists...it is in that nonconceptual space, that is of course not a space, that truth is free of limits, even the limits of nothing, nowhere, ect...

   to believe in 'nothing', is still a belief, and therefore a limitation. to believe in 'nowhere', is still a belief, and therefore a limitation. if you can wrap your mind around it, you are still limited by it...lol

   just as mind can be trapped by the 'idea' of everything, at whatever degree, it can be trapped also by the 'idea' of nothing...same for somewhere, and nowhere...lol

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7. Star
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   just wanted to add that the same thing goes with the 'idea' of space, or the 'idea' of no space...just to correct my own phrasing of where i posted "that is of course not a space"...that too is conceptual, and was incorrectly phrased...again, it goes back to the saying, that you cannot accurately say that it is 'this' or that it is 'that'...

   if we get stuck in even these 'ideas' of nothing, nowhere, or no space...we are still stuck...

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8. David
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   Hello star and thank you for your comments

   Looking into the near perfect surface of the water I see a reflection of a tree upside down on the surface. I am mesmerised by this phenomenon and for years all my senses are focused on it, I look into the water and see a reflection of myself and longingly wish I was that person so that I could walk up to the tree and touch it. Such is the desire to want and be there that all is lost.

   One day after many lifetimes I hear the word of my master patently whispering in my ear.. "awaken sleeper, dreamer of worlds"

   The word of the master is silent, in recognition of its meaning I did simply follow.

   "awaken sleeper, dreamer of worlds" is just but a sign post, look at the moon not the pointing finger and nothing more

   These sentences are just sign posts, pointers and nothing more,

   Not ideas or beliefs.

   In the back ground of this mind there is but one sentence that unfolds all the time...

   'In attachment see suffering'

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9. Star
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   David, sounds like, you're day-dreaming...lol...why not jump into the water and swim with the tree? lol...

   if we awaken to an illusion...and then get stuck in that thinking...we are not really awake...to anything but an illusion...

   while it is true, that most our suffering comes from attachment, it is mostly this 'idea' of suffering, that we are attached to. it becomes a very bad habit, that we repeatedly experience in our minds...if we live in our heads, we are not really living...

   there is nothing wrong with feeling...when someone we love dies, we feel a sadness, but in knowing that what they are can never die, there is a sense of joy...now we can sit around and focus on the negative, and make ourselves miserable, or we can carry that love of that person with us, cherishing the life that they lived, by living our own life awake...

   i often look around the world, and all that is happening to my fellow human beings, and wonder what can little old me do about any of it? i can offer up comforting thoughts, and i can believe that awareness is up to the job...i can unite with other like-minds, in making this world in which we live a better place...this life is a gift...i can accept it with grace, and live it to my upmost best, and hopefully be responsible for my own beliefs and actions, and set an example of living free to all those i come in contact with...not being attached does not mean not living this exciting life that we have been given...it simply means not allowing our attachments and beliefs to dictate how we live our lives...

   i use to think that i had to not feel anything, not be sad, not feel anger, and just always be this spirit of joy and happiness and love...i have since realized that this is as unrealistic as being trapped in my attachments and believes...

   as humans, we are suppose to feel...if the moment calls for compasion, sadness, joy...experience that...the next moment will most inevitably call for something else...

   if we live in the past in our minds, or even in the future...we are not awake to the moment of now...that is not to say that there is anything wrong with reminiscing, or even with dreaming...but life is to be lived in the here and now...so the next time you are sitting on that bank of that lake...try jumping in and swimming with the tree...lol

   much love to you David...always, star.

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10. YetAnotherSeeker
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    Star said:
    "if we awaken to an illusion...and then get stuck in that thinking...we are not really awake...to anything but an illusion..."

    That reminds me of an experience I had when I was a kid. I dreamed the phone was ringing. I woke up and answered the phone, but no one was at the other end, and the phone kept ringing. Then I woke up to the phone ringing. I then realized I had dreamed that I woke up.

    We live in a world of illusion. This concept is relatively new to western thought, but eastern mystics (Hi, Pranav!) have been teaching this concept for centuries.

    Who's to say a dream, or even a daydream reverie, is any less real than the illusion we call "reality"?

    Posted 5 months ago #

11. Rediviva
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    To me the Popeye colloquialism, "I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam", rather profound.

    Like God's "I Am That I Am", spoken to Moses on Mt Sinai...

    Not that Popeye is God... but sometimes you get those golden quotations from the unlikeliest sources.

    Posted 5 months ago #

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