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1. Star
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   the very experience of Awareness, is experienced via body, mind, and voice/energy...if not, then we would not be able to express this experience in this reality...

   so when we claim that all of what we see and experience, is illusion, a dream of sorts, how can we then state with any certainty, that the very Awareness that assertains this, via body, mind, and voice, is the only thing that exists, when it can only exist via the senses...via the dream? by claiming this, we are infact claiming that we experience what is real, via that which is not real...that is impossible! illogical! and it seperates one reality from the other, stating that one is real, and one is illusional...the famous 'not one; not two' comes to mind...

   we try to have it both ways...not understanding the way it is...

   while we dismiss this existence as an illusion, by the very Awareness we have because of this so-called illusional existence, we seperate our experience into real or pure awareness, and 'other', not real...

   we have to reach a understanding of what Buddha knew before this can be resolved in our own minds...which is to truly, accept and reject nothing...

   we cannot definitively claim that it does not exist, nor can we claim definitively that it does exist...this goes for the very self-realization awareness that we claim to experience...and the illusional reality that we claim does not exist, yet we continue to experience as body, mind, and voice...

   we cannot claim illusion, then make should and should not arguments...it is contradictory...

   while we seperate awareness from the reality of living experience...we seperate, in our minds, that which is not, never was, can never be, seperated...

   awareness includes this reality...is of this reality...and cannot exist without this reality...

   a flower is just as much awareness as you or i...calling it an illusion does not change the fact that it exists, in this reality...which is the 'only' reality that i am aware of, as there is no 'other'...

   we can fantacize in our minds all we want...we can astral travel, and dream beyond our
   wildest imaginations...but when we have to piss, or eat or shit...we do...that is the reality, but it does not have to be limited to that...

   this life gives us such potential...to disregard it, is to disregard the very vehicle that allows awareness to wake up...

   if we have awakened to only nothing...then we are not awake to everything...

   to go beyond both of these 'ideas', with no limits, accepting and rejecting nothing...including this existence of awareness which includes this reality of body, mind, and voice which includes the Universe...conditioned or not...is to truly awaken to total awareness, and freedom...

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2. Jamie
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   I really liked this Star. -Jamie

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3. AsI
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   A poet's perspective~ Beauty (the illusion) cannot be owned or then it would not be what it is, nor would there be a reflection of ourself. All Is as It Is. To define the mystery any further is then futile as long as one knows that this immortal moment is heaven.~Asi

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4. AsI
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   No doubt I should add a disclaimer (lol):
   Any 'logic' that goes beyond what I have stated means very little to me. Whatever will be will be when and as it is. It is wonderful not to need anything more. Any 'difference' that another may see is in that one only.

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   thanx jamie...i liked it too...lol...hope you are well...

   hey asi...you still 'sound' confused...with concepts...

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6. AsI
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   It's all in your mind...lol

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7. AsI
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   Actually, you could carry on your own argument as you did with Chip. 'Concepts'~start there. Seems like something that owns you more than me as witnessed in endless threads of wordy nothingness.

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8. AsI
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   How about ~ Mind creates 'matter'

   Yes
   Or no?
   What 'matter' would you like to create?

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9. YetAnotherSeeker
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   I guess it does not really 'matter'!

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10. AsI
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    No, it really doesn't- unless someone thinks that it does. Any 'effort' to do so is only for the sake of an ego/identity not there.

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    Asi said;

    "Actually, you could carry on your own argument as you did with Chip. 'Concepts'~start there. Seems like something that owns you more than me as witnessed in endless threads of wordy nothingness."

    as opposed to your non-wordy somethingness? LOL...

    i prefer to call it 'intelligent dialogue'...you advocate silence, but you never remain in it...a contradiction, and further evidence that you do not 'practice what you preach'...you preach that all is as it is, and yet your conditioning does not allow you to allow all to be as it is...especially where it concerns what i post...

    i suspect that all is as it is, only when it is what Asi says it is...

    making reference to an ego or identity that does not exist, according to Asi, is also a contradiction...

    if it had not been meant for minds to reason, voices to speak, and bodies to be...it would not be apparently so...

    God has expressed Awareness through the avenue of body, mind, and voice...to use it responsibly and intelligently, is divine purpose...however, to use it otherwise, as you have, is also divine purpose...lol...go figure!

    Asi also said;

    "Any 'logic' that goes beyond what I have stated means very little to me. Whatever will be will be when and as it is. It is wonderful not to need anything more. Any 'difference' that another may see is in that one only."

    if awareness is not paying attention to logic, it is existing illogically...

    do you still need to eat?

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    Asi also said:

    "No, it really doesn't- unless someone thinks that it does. Any 'effort' to do so is only for the sake of an ego/identity not there."

    it is halarious how you spout your so-called self-awareness knowledge, and at the same time, state that anyone that 'dares' to challenge it, is acting from an ego that does not exist...lol...how i have missed the challenge of your nonsense...welcome back!

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    "A poet's perspective~ Beauty (the illusion) cannot be owned or then it would not be what it is, nor would there be a reflection of ourself. All Is as It Is. To define the mystery any further is then futile as long as one knows that this immortal moment is heaven.~Asi"

    this post is full of contradictions...how can something that definitively 'does not exist' be defined as Beauty or anything else...even illusion?

    are you certain that you actually 'know' what it is?

    do you even understand what is meant by the nature of Awareness to reflect?

    what is really halarious, is that you give the stipulation, "to define the mystery any further is then futile...", but you go ahead, and get real futile, by defining it further, as a knowing that each imortal moment is heaven...

    do you even pay attention to what you are posting? will you again, not 'own' it?

    if you are still trying to define what it is, you are not aware of what it is...

    btw...this awareness can and does own the beauty and heaven of the moment...the ugliness and hell too...when need be...lol...the everything and nothing of the all of awareness...the God of my own understanding...each moment as it reveals itself, to itself...as itself...including the judgements of heaven and hell...and beyond them...

    much love to you Asi...my awareness bows to the divinity of your own...and thanx you for the challenge...always, star...

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14. AsI
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    "this post is full of contradictions...how can something that definitively 'does not exist' be defined as Beauty or anything else...even illusion?"

    All thought is contradiction. It exists of duality. Can you decribe the mystery of yourself in any terms less relative than what you have heard me say in the past? Yet, you judge. Your judgement defines you as much of a joke as any ego-identity.

    Would we go around the bush of illusion again? That the Self is all and not? Everything and awareness simply Is? Selflessness?
    How many times is that necessary? You know what I talk of as a poet-that which beckons you on.

    The ugliness and hell too is duality. you know I know this.

    Why do you 'attack' others so? Your thing with G was not to help him but to prove you right. What is this ego-thing that you challenge others with? Are you supposed to be more aware than me? Where the F does this come from in you-AND WHY DOES IT MATTER?

    If you have issues, I really don't care. Your hilarious love has been questionable to me for some time now. I saw you go from the 'nothing matters ecstatic' period (which I understood)to 'this' that makes you come across like a bully to the point that no one wants to play (talk) with you. Dry drunk-mean without. You must not be getting something. Whatever. I once thought we were close, but those days are long gone.

    Something is wrong when love takes second place to thought.

    I won't come this way again. ~Asi

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    you'll be alright...take a deep breath...

    was not meant as a personal attack, nor was it a judgment...that is all i have time for now...hope you are well...

    don't worry...be happy...

    i will always challenge conceptual awareness...nothing personal...

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    ok asi, i have more time today to address your post...

    within your own post, you contradict what you have so long suggested 'is what it is', and 'all is perfect as it is'...this is all that i have continued to address...i never judged you as you seem to think, only analyzed what you have and continue to post...

    if all is perfect as it is, then why does that not include what i post?

    i have stated that you contradict yourself...if all is perfect as it is, then where am i wrong? even if, i had no love, as you have suggested, how is that wrong, given your belief that there is no wrong, and that all is perfect as it is? again, i suggest to you that all is only perfect as it is, when it is as asi says it is...

    you on the other hand, have accused me of being a joke, egotistical, on the attack, lacking love, wrong, a mean dry-drunk that has issues that you don't care about...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...who is it that is judging another here? the only thing i am talking about is the contradiction within your own awareness...

    as far as awareness goes, it is obvious, at least to me, that your beliefs and judgments of me as a person fill your awareness with the very conceptual limitations that you emphatically claim no longer exist...like i said, you continue to contradict yourself...and as long as you do, and i have time, i will point that out...

    your attempts to justify it, by ridiculing me, are ridiculous...don't look now, but you look like a complete idiot where your posts are concerned...such are conceptual ideas...you took what i posted as a personal attack against your belief of your own enlightened awareness...if you truly were free of all those conditioned beliefs, you would not have responded the way you did...

    as far as you not coming this way again, that is your choice...as far as us being close, i don't know you outside of this forum...get real...

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