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Can a Believer overcome physical death Now?

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  • Started 3 months ago by NewDiscovery
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  1. NewDiscovery
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    NewDiscovery

    Can a Believer overcome physical death Now?

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    hello to all!
    I am asking some forums this question regarding

    John 11 v 24-25-26

    Martha - John 11 v 24
    Messiah - John 11 v 25-26

    Quote:

    Jhn 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

    Jhn 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

    Jhn 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

    there are the 2 ways exposed.
    This is the core message of the bible and why the Messiah came
    To reverse the curse.

    2 tim.1 v 10 -gives His Believers the real Goodnews, saying

    Quote:
    2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called [us] with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

    2Ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

    2Ti 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

    ask
    was He inside some alien life form or a wonderfull made human body
    Was this 'wonderfully'' made human body designed for eternal life - consider Messiah on the Mt of transfiguration Math 17 v 1 and the displaying of Christ IN A HUMAN BODY.

    the NT is clear that -few find eternal life.
    SO! what do the rest find then?

    few find the way to be as Messiah is

    why?

    they are brainwashed by religion....who says ''wait till ye die''.

    yet

    Here and now we are told ''put off courruption'' and ''put off mortal''
    We are told of
    * our transformation,
    * the new covenant,
    * the new birth,
    * renewing of the mind,
    * dying on the cross daily,
    * sanctification and righteousness and justification,
    * to be Holy as He is Holy,
    * a quickened Spirit,
    * heirs and adopted into the Royal house.

    etc

    yet NO one church ever majors in the ENTRANCE INTO ETERNAL LIFE, not after death but while THEY ARE ALIVE, just as MESSIAH IS ETERNAL LIFE, so are His church.
    ETERNAL LIFE PEOPLE... for He says

    notice please....

    ''I will Build MY church [ not the corrupt system of corporate religion] but I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH, and the gates [openings] of Hell/grave [the law of sin and death] shall not prevail [get the better of] against her''

    the religious church builds its people -they die
    Yahushua builds HIS CHURCH - DESIGNER MADE- THEY LIVE AS HE LIVES.
    John 11 v 25-26.
    why?
    they are t.r.a.n.s.f.o.r.m.e.d. by the renewing of their minds.

    something to really wonder over.
    Messiah words are the truth amen!
    do we believe them?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  2. selfseeker
    Member

    selfseeker

    [quote]Can a Believer overcome physical death Now? [/quote]

    What is death ?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  3. nepsfeather
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    nepsfeather

    YES...said Jesus...

    Posted 3 months ago #
  4. Star

    death is a part of life...we are that circle of life...go watch the Lion King...

    Posted 3 months ago #
  5. fin
    Member

    fin

    hi star, nepsfeather,selfseeker, NewDiscovery

    lol now who could possibly live without the Lion King ? a great family show

    "death lives forever"

    Posted 3 months ago #
  6. Star

    is that a real live picture of you? i love it!

    Posted 3 months ago #
  7. fin
    Member

    fin

    hi star, in principal though not quite lol

    but the picture show seems to go on, sometimes its a nightmare other times a pleasant dream

    Posted 3 months ago #
  8. Star

    well, i would say that these wars are nightmares...if not for us inparticular...for those that are suffering through them...

    my life is so wonderful...but that could change with a tornado or a bomb...everything can change in the twinkling of an eye...in my experience, it is wise not to become too attached to anything...i live in the moment...this one...right now...and wake myself up to the reality of what is real in my life...realizing that this existence is temporal...and experiencing life within the awareness of my own true nature...it's awesome...i allow my own awareness to be my teacher...as long as my mind is open and not limited by it's own condtioning...i am free...to just be...no matter what i am doing or where i am or where i might be going...i don't live in fantasy land...or off in some spiritual rhealm...i live real life in real time right now...and it is amazing...i am passionate about being real with me, and real with others...it is so true that the truth can set you free...my mind is active, i am active...and it is a wonder-filled journey...but of course, it is real...this is our true condition...and my very life is my own awakening journey...and i love it!

    good to see you my friend...always, star...

    Posted 3 months ago #
  9. fin
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    fin

    "it is wise not to become too attached to anything...i live in the moment"

    wise points star & glad you are well, just be careful : )

    Posted 3 months ago #
  10. Star

    careful of what? crossing the street without looking both ways? LOL

    Posted 3 months ago #
  11. selfseeker
    Member

    selfseeker

    Hey fin, how are you dear ? Nice to see you back ! :)

    Posted 3 months ago #
  12. fin
    Member

    fin

    ss,

    alls good thanks & good to see you. Just keeping up with you guys

    star,

    lol. With the whats out there.

    take care :)

    Posted 3 months ago #
  13. shin
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    shin

    { they are brainwashed by religion.... }

    I find this popping up on many so-called spiritual sites. It doesn't sound very spiritual to me.

    Posted 2 months ago #

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