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Loneliness . . . HOW DO YOU SEE A WAY OUT ! Help a little girl.

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  1. BroDan
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    BroDan

    Oh Hell . . . where do I begin . . . let's just say I have travelled a billion light years forward to find my self now asking you guys for guidence again, now though I'm dealing something that is new, totally new.

    So I would like to summon you guys to this place here with me to speak, try and help me unknot this for me and Vasu,

    Please, beings of purity, light and wisdom, share with me and all here your thoughts, please.

    To start this is a letter I wrote to Vasu to totally and formally end the relationship, I stupidly went to hand it to her personally:

    .......................................................................................................................................................................................................

    Morning Poppy . . .

    I think you had better sit some where 'alone' to read this, this is not going to be easy for you but I can’t let you find this out in any other way as I simply love you so much.

    I have woken up today thinking so clearly that I can see the life ahead of me, in fact I see that everything is amazing. That what is particularly amazing is that I can't actually see what is a round the next corner at all. I see that is exactly what I love about life, the fear of the unknown simply does not exist in me.

    Now that we have split up I have lost you, I could well be moving far away and be in a place where I don't know anyone, don't speak the language, have no family or friends around me, be living in a strange space and be left with nothing around me to comfort me what so ever, I just don’t know where my path is to lead now.

    One thing I do truthfully at this point know is that if I did find my self in such a lonely place that I would see that I still have me. My smile, my light and most of all ‘the love for all’ , which as you know is the very essence which makes me, the one you know better than any one else.

    I see that I am the birds, trees, flowers, animals, wind, rain, lakes, rivers, oceans, stars and most of all that I am the universe and that the universe is me . . . that I am part of the universe which is made up of an in-comprehend-able power that causes constant change, that it will never stop doing what it's doing to us now . . . that the only way to be Ok with it's power is to surrender to it, to simply trust it.

    There is 'no' escape.

    This is the place I am at now, in total trust of the universe, in a state of love for every thing and every one . . . in a place where feel I am at one with all.

    Lets now look at loneliness and your sex life . . .

    If you look at when you where really young, as you said to me you used to keep a pillow between your legs and like the sensation of moving the pillow up against you from as young as you can remember right?

    I see that you from a very, very young age that you had not been looked after and most of all not loved as you should have been, that you, right from that very young age when you where a little, little girl had been cast a side as if you where a mere problem, something that should have not happened and as something that was just not wanted at all.

    You where cast aside in total coldness, rejected by your own mother. Rejected from the very loving force that brought you in to this life at the mere age of 3 months. My God poppy, I can’t even begin to understand how that must feel. bless you Poppy.

    Lets look at your sex drive . . . it has recently got so very strong, it has become such a profound force that you have decided to let go of the very soul that has offered you all that he possibly can in the name of love and instead choose a path to take and go find what it is that you feel I couldn’t give you.

    You have now chosen to seek what is that me, Scraggy could not provide but instead go and attempt to find it in some one else, to find some one that will satisfy this burning desire in you, this along with other desires being able to make great love.

    When ever we attempted to make love we never got anywhere near it, the loneliness you so deeply suffer from you would bring to bed with us and it would not only make the act of loving some one else for you impossible, close the very senses that need to be switched on for you to feel satisfied but also close all my abilities to love you in return.

    This sex drive you have on every occasion forced up-on me when trying to make love . . . this sex drive of yours I see you have very closely connected to the rejection from your own mother from near birth, sex is something that you from as young as you can remember with a pillow up against your body been the most comforting thing you could find while in a state of rejection from everyone that was supposed to take care of you and love you.

    You from a very young age have connected sex with this very, very lonely place.

    Finally I feel I should fearlessly reveal what I now see to be the truth to you.

    You having sex with anyone in an attempt to make love will never, ever satisfy what it is you now seek until , you master loneliness.

    I see you have a hell of a path in front of you and quite likely yet more, possible many more very, very difficult love relationships.

    I wish you all the strength possible, pure light and for you in particular poppy . . .

    as it always has been . . .

    is . . .

    and always will be . . .

    eternal . . .

    true . . .

    love.

    Scraggy

    x

    x

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    Ok, in talking Vasu stupidly confessed her profound love for me, what an idiot I am to have returned, problem is it's all about gut feeling not head work and knowing that life is all about decisions and the art is to make as few as you need to and let thing mull over for as long as you possible before you are forced in to a situation where you all of a sudden have to then make a desicion right?

    Well in that phone call to Vasu I saw, no love for me from her, no sex drive and to top it off a want of sex with other so I thought, 'The truth' is staring at you, so made that call and called it off. Since then I have been having outer body experiences caused by the sheer joy I felt and entered in to the high est state of Love for everyone and all that I have ever, ever experienced.

    This morning I was rolling about on my living room floor laughing my head off with tears of happiness streaming from my eyes, an amazing moment. With my eyes shut in meditation I even saw my own third eye or eye of Wisdom as I once thought it was that I haven't seen for years appear and stare straight at me, it was so clear that this time I could even see eye lashes!!!!

    The eye of wisdom always appears to be hovering about 1 meter in front of me when ever I reach this state with eyes closed but realized that it could be literally Millions and millions of miles away yet the size of 50 galaxies across for it to appear so near!!!!

    Crazy Hey !!!!!!?!?!?!??!?!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So where am I at now then ?? . . .

    Well in handing the letter to Vasu she went and stupidly confessed after reading it with tear streaming from her eyes that she still
    loved me so very, very dearly.

    Now I saw a reason and strenght that would enable us to get back together, I hand't wanted this or yearned for it what so ever but her love for me has opened so many more possibilities that I now just don't know what to decide.

    I am back in the same flat with her and it's so tricky.

    Ok . . .

    Vasu feels the letter I wrote to her above, she sees that she needs to conquer her lonelyness but feels that when she is around me that she pulls me down, personally if I was grounded I'd have maintained the outlook that I had achieved but Vasu has this grounding she provides me, I am now more masculine than ever and her female energy makes me see things as they are, how ever uncomfortable they may be I like to battle them out, this is the way I am so love the effect Vasu has on me which in truth is very healing.

    Vasu is still not sure about how to deal with loneliness, weather she wants to me move out or not as she feels she needs space or what??

    I feel that I also have this healing effect on her, that this discomfort thats driving her insane when she is around me is her covering ground.

    I feel that her wanting to actually be alone is to replace one attachment with another, then when she is lonely sooner or later with her animal sex drive then replace the loneliness with a relationship, then another, then more loneliness and so on.

    I don't want to move out if possible but am out that door like a bat out of hell if need be !!! ha ha !

    Vasu on the other hand I see a constant repetition in to finally let go of this loneliness to be able to one day love me or another.

    What do you suggest guys ?

    PLEASE HELP VASU !!!!!!

    SHE IS IN A REALLY BAD WAY.

    I summon you all for your thoughts and wisdom.

    Please help Vasu.

    Love to you all . . . again!

    Dan

    Posted 2 months ago #
  2. BroDan
    Member

    BroDan

    A little while after I have reachieved detachment, am determined to stay grounded and maintain it and am moving out in to my whole new life on my own to seek a girl that can love me.

    Vasu and I might get back together one day but I doubt it very much.

    Please post to help Vasu my x-girlfriend who is experiencing deep emotional pain and sheer confusion.

    Thanks guys, I wouldn't be here with out you.

    Love to you all and Vasu.

    Dan

    x
    x

    Posted 2 months ago #
  3. BroDan
    Member

    BroDan

    Vasu is in a really bad way.

    She hes recently got in touch with her mother that when Vasu was born was left in very difficult position and had to give Vasu away to elders in the family to look after when Vasu was only 3 months old. If it is lonelyness caused by this rejection is it worth Vasu finding the courage to talk to her about what shes going though?

    The reason why I ask is because, this is so wierd and please correct me if I'm looking to deeply in to all this but Vasu's mother texts Vasu from time to time trying to get Vasu in to conversation with small talk and has said to her that shes in abd way, that she's going through her menoupause and is bleeding from her womb alot.

    Is that connected to what Vasu os feeling, the pain and blood stems from the same place they both feel pain from??

    Oh crikey this is wierd.

    Please help her our dear little Vasu, she in a really bad way and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do with out loosing this grounded state I have achieved.

    Oh the pain . . . the tears I feel for her . . .

    Please universe help our dear little Vasu,

    please please please.

    Dan

    Posted 2 months ago #
  4. selfseeker
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    selfseeker

    Dear Dan,

    I had said in one of my posts : "You" (your idea of yourself) are nothing but a ball of thoughts. And this "you" is not a constant entity but keeps changing with the speed of your thoughts. We are what we think we are !

    What is Vasudha ? For you "she" is just a ball of thoughts you have woven about her. For herself, she is another ball of thoughts that she has woven about herself. And both these balls of thoughts are illusions. She (the real "she") is not like any of these two balls of thoughts.

    That is not true only for Vasudha ...this holds true for all of us. The "real you" is beyond these thoughts.

    To find all your answers & answer to Vasudha's dilemma, you will have to understand the power of thoughts. Our thoughts are very powerful ... they have the same power of creation & destruction that God has. This whole universe is solidification of His thoughts. We all are nothing but the thoughts of the THINKER.

    Let's take sex for example : The actual act of sex is nothing but friction of one skin against another skin. So, if the nerves of those parts of skin are acting fine, the act of sex should bring in the same "result" / same "satisfaction", right ? But it doesn't. A prticular appearance, a particular scent, a particular way of talking, a particular place ... become much more important in sex than just rubbing of two dsins ! Why ? This is all in our head ... our thoughts ... all built by us. We are so much conditioned with those things that we never question the validity of these thoughts. Why should appearance (or any particular person) play any role in enhancement of sexual pleasure ? There is no reason. We hold on to our thoughts ... the illusory thoughts (created by us) & seek satisfaction from those things we believe hold the key to our happiness. This is Maya ... the powerful illusion. We keep running after images bulit by our own thoughts ... alas ! we are the creators of our own desert of mirages !!

    Can you ever be satisfied running after images & mirages ? STOP .. for God's sake, please STOP & see that it is all illusion. The only way to be satisfied & remain
    truly happy is "stop running after illusions" & stop creating further illusions.

    Thoughts are reasons behind all our misery ... & thoughts can alone become our gateway to happiness.

    You say, "Vasudha is lonely" .... that is not true. Vasudha (or you) thinks that she is lonely ... this is the truth. You say, " You love Vasudha very much" ... the reality
    is that you think that you love her so much. You say that you are in pain. No, friend, you are thinking that you are in pain.

    Vasudha or you ... both of you have power to be happy & power to be unhappy. There is no other force acting. You only are standing in the way of your happiness. Will you
    please let the happiness come inside & lighten your life ? If Vasudha wants to be unhappy, no power on earth can help her. She herself is the healer she is seeking.

    Her mother's menopause & bleeding from her womb .... can it affect Vasudha ? Sure, if she thinks that way ! Never, if she doesn't.

    Have you seen the film, "Lion King" ? What does Simba's father tells him --- "Remember ... who you are !". We have just to realise what we really are to be free from all pains!

    You were never bound ... you just thought that you were in bondage. You were always complete until you thought you were not complete without Vasudha ! You are ever free, all powerful, fearless, blissful Prince of this COSMOS ... but you never believed that ! Who can stop the king from begging, if he thinks he is a beggar ?

    Desires are fire. By feeding them we only make them stronger & more potent. The media, the fantasy books, the romantic stories are all stoking fire to our desires. Satisfaction of desires is like applying a pain balm once we have headache. Why to have headache in the first instance ? There is no perfect girl you want to have & there is no perfect boy the girl wants to have. ... and there is really no need. If you allow your thoughts to run amok, you are sure to feel lost, depressed, dissatisfied & unhappy to the point of commiting suicide. Train your mind to think in the correct way which is the way to true happiness.

    You are the source of all happiness, sorrows, laughter & pains ... choose whatever you prefer. The choice is yours ... your majesty !

    Posted 2 months ago #
  5. selfseeker
    Member

    selfseeker

    Dear Dan,

    I had said in one of my posts : "You" (your idea of yourself) are nothing but a ball of thoughts. And this "you" is not a constant entity but keeps changing with the speed of your thoughts. We are what we think we are !

    What is Vasudha ? For you "she" is just a ball of thoughts you have woven about her. For herself, she is another ball of thoughts that she has woven about herself. And both these balls of thoughts are illusions. She (the real "she") is not like any of these two balls of thoughts.

    That is not true only for Vasudha ...this holds true for all of us. The "real you" is beyond these thoughts.

    To find all your answers & answer to Vasudha's dilemma, you will have to understand the power of thoughts. Our thoughts are very powerful ... they have the same power of creation & destruction that God has. This whole universe is solidification of His thoughts. We all are nothing but the thoughts of the THINKER.

    Let's take sex for example : The actual act of sex is nothing but friction of one skin against another skin. So, if the nerves of those parts of skin are acting fine, the act of sex should bring in the same "result" / same "satisfaction", right ? But it doesn't. A prticular appearance, a particular scent, a particular way of talking, a particular place ... become much more important in sex than just rubbing of two dsins ! Why ? This is all in our head ... our thoughts ... all built by us. We are so much conditioned with those things that we never question the validity of these thoughts. Why should appearance (or any particular person) play any role in enhancement of sexual pleasure ? There is no reason. We hold on to our thoughts ... the illusory thoughts (created by us) & seek satisfaction from those things we believe hold the key to our happiness. This is Maya ... the powerful illusion. We keep running after images bulit by our own thoughts ... alas ! we are the creators of our own desert of mirages !!

    Can you ever be satisfied running after images & mirages ? STOP .. for God's sake, please STOP & see that it is all illusion. The only way to be satisfied & remain
    truly happy is "stop running after illusions" & stop creating further illusions.

    Thoughts are reasons behind all our misery ... & thoughts can alone become our gateway to happiness.

    You say, "Vasudha is lonely" .... that is not true. Vasudha (or you) thinks that she is lonely ... this is the truth. You say, " You love Vasudha very much" ... the reality
    is that you think that you love her so much. You say that you are in pain. No, friend, you are thinking that you are in pain.

    Vasudha or you ... both of you have power to be happy & power to be unhappy. There is no other force acting. You only are standing in the way of your happiness. Will you
    please let the happiness come inside & lighten your life ? If Vasudha wants to be unhappy, no power on earth can help her. She herself is the healer she is seeking.

    Her mother's menopause & bleeding from her womb .... can it affect Vasudha ? Sure, if she thinks that way ! Never, if she doesn't.

    Have you seen the film, "Lion King" ? What does Simba's father tells him --- "Remember ... who you are !". We have just to realise what we really are to be free from all pains!

    You were never bound ... you just thought that you were in bondage. You were always complete until you thought you were not complete without Vasudha ! You are ever free, all powerful, fearless, blissful Prince of this COSMOS ... but you never believed that ! Who can stop the king from begging, if he thinks he is a beggar ?

    Desires are fire. By feeding them we only make them stronger & more potent. The media, the fantasy books, the romantic stories are all stoking fire to our desires. Satisfaction of desires is like applying a pain balm once we have headache. Why to have headache in the first instance ? There is no perfect girl you want to have & there is no perfect boy the girl wants to have. ... and there is really no need. If you allow your thoughts to run amok, you are sure to feel lost, depressed, dissatisfied & unhappy to the point of commiting suicide. Train your mind to think in the correct way which is the way to true happiness.

    You are the source of all happiness, sorrows, laughter & pains ... choose whatever you prefer. The choice is yours ... your majesty !

    Posted 2 months ago #
  6. Mary
    Member

    Mary

    Two things. Focus on yourself Brodan. Then lookup relationship addiction.

    Third thing. NO CONTACT. NO CONTACT is the fastest way to go. RIP off the bandaid, don't mess around with it. THEN be open to all life's possibilities.

    If you want to call her, sit on your hands. If she contacts you , don't read and definitely don't respond. remember the resolve you had when you first decided to separate.

    All the best and brotherly love to you.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  7. BroDan
    Member

    BroDan

    I have a total addiction to relationships, I have seen it.

    This never ending knowledge I have now tapped in to is the most difficult thing I have ever had to deal with, the pain before now seems easy though more painful !! ha ha !

    Relationship addiction: From leaving Vasu to in a week end to Natalie . . .

    I have just caved in from being a fun and gently loving individual in to this creature that is fearlessly speaking his thoughts, I can tell I'm virtually writing to her to get this next desire of mine called 'Natalie' to confess what I 'think' I see, that is that we both are in a state of desire and that I 'think' we both share the scared state we are in when we are near.

    This is tricky as I don't want to get in to another relationship of desires now that I am aware of how 'desiring' I am, this I see reflected in Natalie towards me where I know she has been mistreated by others in the past and that I see is the reason for her not being able to trust me.

    Natalie, is I 'think' is very much like me, she has had enough of head sex and want's something purer but if it's pure enough she will see though my run of mad texts and reply some how, if not then I feel I have lost nothing but a lesson learned and another woman of desires out of my way.

    I 'think' I know but . . . almost don't care as I am in the closest place to the divine that I have ever experienced (yes another illusion) so in Natalie running away from my madness caused by my head see my self as left still free and with a lesson learned plus one accidentally tout to Natalie, which is still a plus for both of us 'I think'.

    Or . . . she has the courage to say how she feels knowing that she also has desires and an Ego as I do and we get together in the stupid state of desires, which is no foundation for any relationship !!!

    Oh bless her, she and I, I feel have met our match.

    There's no other way of doing this, If I just feel from the nothingness that I now 'think' I see to be divine then all that is, is what it is that will be, end of.

    I know you guys have been helping me from roughly this plane, but I have just entered it and am here to stay, in difficulty I feel.

    I'm about to more out and have a feeling I'll be alone for a long time, this I am Ok with as well.

    Those of you that I now realise to be beings in the light ?

    Out of thought, only momentary stillness and the wiseness it brings.

    Where am I going with this guys ?

    BroDan

    x
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    Posted 1 month ago #

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