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1. gatesofgrace
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   As much as 10-20 million bbl of oil have been pumped out daily for over 30 years, and yet the oil reserves are increasing. After investigating the logging analytical data of the lower Cretaceous marine shale, and Jurassic fine-grained marine carbonates below, drilled along the eastern Mediterranean coast and over the subduction zone, Bein and Sofer (1987) found that the marine shale could not be the source of the oil discovered along the coast of Israel.

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   Carbon also can he derived from organic material locked in lithologies and/or from subducted hydrocarbons. Hydrogen can originate from organic material and connate water locked in subducted sedimentary beds, from subducted hydrocarbons, and/or noticeably from water that seeps below the surface and dissociates, or reacts with catalysts at 300-500°C (Mahfoud and Beck - 1991).

   The carbon and hydrogen would then combine, under this range of temperature, to form hydrocarbons. Ferrous iron (Fe+2 ), present in mafic minerals, acts as a catalyst in the reduction reactions, and changes to ferric iron (Fe+3) to form magnetite (Fe3O4), commonly found along microscopic cracks in olivine and pyroxene (Mahfoud and Beck - 1991).

   The variable combination of paraffins and naphthenes has resulted in different crude compositions in the gulf areas. During these reactions, the hydrocarbons formed have dissolved released contaminants such as S, Fe, Ng, Ni, and Co, from ultramafic, basaltic, and dissociated sedimentary rocks, during their journey to their current locations.

   This process would be able to continuously supply hydrocarbons to the oil and gas fields through openings in the Gulf area, as long as the region is tectonically unstable, and earthquakes resulting from subduction of rock materials, fracturing, and seepage of water are common.

   It is easy to understand now why hydrocarbons are absent to the east of the ophiolite mountain in Oman (no subduction), why oil reserves are modest in Oman, Syria, and Turkey (inadequate seepage of water), and why traps are found in formations of different ages (Upper Paleozoic to Miocene). Almost all the traps, north and south of the Gulf, are formed by and located over deep-seated horsts and/or over fractured or faulted Early Paleozoic salt domes along the gulf (North - 1985). These openings cut across the basement rocks and overlying beds, and provide access for oil and gas migration to their traps.

   Conclusion

   The two major ingredients, carbon and hydrogen, necessary for the formation of hydrocarbons in the Middle East, can originate from organic and inorganic sources. Hydrocarbons should be continuously forming in the Persian/Arabian Gulf area to account for the annual increase in oil reserves.

   Note: This article works overtime to explain this phenomena place taking in the middle east.

   Go figure! There is enough oil to last mankind's needs forever. The development of green technologies would reduce the dependency on hydrocarbons on a global scale for heating and transportation, eliminating the greenhouse effect. Hydrocarbons could remain and be used for friendly climatic uses such as grease and lubricants.

   http://www.offshore-mag.com/display_article/23172/120/ARTCL/none/none/2/MIDDLE-EAST-GEOLOGY-Why-the-Middle-East-fields-may-produce-oil-forever/
   MIDDLE EAST GEOLOGY Why the Middle East fields may produce oil forever - Offshore

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2. gatesofgrace
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   Saudi Arabia's oil reserves have been (dumbed up) by the oil producer Saudi Aramco. They totally deny that the reserves are drying up... but they go no further. If they explained that to the contrary, reserves are actually increasing, they would put downward pressure on prices etc., even though they themselves do not understand the phenomena.

   THOUGHTS?

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3. abstractprophet
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   hi gates,

   It is interesting isn't it. I have come across this idea of peak oil as a myth before and although I am in no position to comment on wether or not oil is drying up or not, it is perhaps telling how most believe what they are spoon fed by the media.

   What I find interecting here is that we appear to be being pushed to the extremes of perception (left OR right) which I see is exactly how our minds are being controlled so as not to see the truth, that we are all in this together.

   I could be wong. I don't know.

   What do you think?

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4. shin
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   The article is dated April 1995. That looks a bit old and more than 10 years later nobody has brought this up for discussion, not in the media, not between governments, not even by the people who deal with oil?
   Unlimited oil reserves, despite this oil at 150US$ per barrel, threatening global economic collapse and no one breathes a word?

   This should be fertile ground for conspiracy theories, but even there it seems to be quiet.

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5. Mary
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   Whether or not the earth's oil reserves are being depleted, the root problem is human greed, overconsumption and waste.
   Even if humans had oil for many generations to come.. what would we do with all our mounting debt owed to other countries and all the garbage ? World power and moreover world peace ? Issues that would still be unresolved.

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6. gatesofgrace
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   shin,

   wild stuff eh!

   http://www.arabnews.com/?page=6&section=0&article=44011&d=29&m=4&y=2004
   Saudi Oil Is Secure and Plentiful, Say Officials

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7. shin
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   One of the reasons put forward by some people for the war in Iraq is this.
   Oil was traditionally traded in US$. America has a monopoly on printing US$ and since they (US$) are not covered by anything of real and intrinsic value, the only cost incurred is the cost of paper and ink. In essence, 'paying' for oil costs America virtually nothing in real stuff.
   However, the Iraqi's then decided that they would trade their oil in Euro's. That changes the whole game. Now America would have to buy Euros and the EU would want to see something of real value for that in exchange. All of a sudden oil would actually cost America something, and cost a hell of a lot.

   What do do? Persuade the Iraqi's to abandon their plan, and so America did just that.

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8. gatesofgrace
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   ap,

   That is most plausible!

   Mary,

   Seems with this greed there is profound ignorance. The rallying cry originating from self and personal gain, regardless of future outcomes.

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9. abstractprophet
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   shin,

   You obviously haven't done your homework. I looked at peak oil about a year or so ago and I found that although not prominent there are reports from whistle blowers who claim that there are massive reserves that have not even been tapped. I followed the trail of the whistle blowers and they appeared reputable.

   From memory one reserve was under a mountain in Greenland or something. That is not to even mention the vast quantities of shale oil which although harder to refine there is an abundance.

   Like I said though, I am not in a position to comment either way as I am not informed on exactly what the situation is.

   IMO, it is also naive to think that these billion dollar industries do not lie to us and keep us in the dark about what is really going on. Look no further than the tobacco industry if you want an example.

   Are you also aware that in Brazil they are cutting down massive slabs of the amazon every day in the name of biodeisil. It is disgraceful what is happening to this planet at the hands of humans.

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10. shin
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    gog

    yes, wild stuff. Am I glad we can go on using gas guzzlers. We can continue with stupid customs such as roses for Valentine's day and fly them from Kenya to Holland (surprisingly, overall the Kenyan roses are actually 'greener' that the one's grown in Holland, but still ....).
    We can bail out car manufacturers without imposing many restrictions as to fuel efficiency etc. BTW, why are the guys who got us into mess left in charge of getting us out of it?
    Zero percent interest to get purchasing going again, which of course means 0 percent interest for the depositor too. What can someone who has some money and would like to increase it by investing it do, other than gamble, on the stock exchange or the casino?

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11. shin
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    ap

    I have not done ANY homework, I am shooting from hip, or maybe lips :)

    There are indeed huge reserved locked up in all kind of inhospitable place where no one wants to live. Wonder why not? AFAIK, the trouble is that in many cases one has to put in more energy than one gets out, such as thawing up the ground first, liquifying the oil through heat before it can be pumped, processing huge amounts of sand in order to extract small amounts of oil, etc.

    Maybe I am wrong, but low oil prices are not good for the earth.

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12. shin
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    Let's face it, there is no limit to human stupidity.

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13. abstractprophet
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    Well they aint good for the oil barons thats for sure, like they need to add to their monopoly. lol :o)

    Be well.

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14. abstractprophet
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    I am with stupid. LOL

    My partner thinks I am nuts but I am getting a tshirt made up.

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15. abstractprophet
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    Your right about the low oil prices also, but you can also find information that refutes global warming, and even though I have always been an enviromentalist I even question the validity of that.

    Is probably complete nonsense but I read something a couple of years back reportedly written in the 50s or 60s or something that stated that a good way to control the masses would be to create an idea of environmental disaster. Not saying it is true but it does highlight the ammount of disinformation that we are fed from birth.

    We are spoon fed so much confusion, it is little wonder so many people choose to escape this brave new world.

    Anyways gots to run.

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16. selfseeker
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    This is the most interesting article I have read so far on fossil fuels. If that is true, why waste so much on renewable sources of energy ?

    I like to believe whatever is proposed but it appears too good to be true !

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17. fin
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    Apparently, it takes millions of years, for the earth to produce the usable raw materials that we can use to refine/produce oil & not all of it is easy to extract or refine.

    So we might just end up demanding it faster than we can get out it out of the ground.

    People reckon we can use coal or hydrogen or even scrap metal or whatever, in lieu of oil, but, essentially many machines still use oil. So, the knock-on effects are not just to transport/food supply but might affect a large portion of electricity supply and then in turn communications systems, as well as pumps for water & sewer infrastructure.

    Anyway, im just talking potential scenarios. i dont know what will happen and there are some countries like NZ that generate 75% of their electricity hydro-electrically and China is obviously planning ahead, investing much in building hydro-electric, gas, nuclear energy plants, though, i feel, many of us underestimate the dependence we have on oil. And take for granted when we switch on the lights or flush the toilet.

    : )

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18. Starss
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    Now is the time to invent or promote a vehicle that uses no oil....
    Perhaps it burns water that releases as steam...or releases oxygen into
    the air..
    Then all the talk, all the money, all the barons and their excesses are
    sitting in oil while the world goes on...
    And all the wars over oil are useless....and the world goes on.
    And no one wants oil and it can't be given away....
    It's just a temporary exploit folks and when the game is over...all that
    supported it, will also be over.

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19. abstractprophet
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    It is little wonder that we are in the situation we are currently in when we have been pilaging the earths resources for the last hundred years or so.

    How long would you survive with a pack of vampires sucking your blood?

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20. gatesofgrace
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    shin,

    It has been this one's point of interest that the Euro is a topical threat... just like you say. i understand that the Iranians are trading in Euros as we speak with oil. This would explain the Bush's administration,s depth of knowledge. Bush floated the Iran invasion idea whenever he can to override others from doing just what you said.... by dumping the greenback.

    By the smug look "still" on his face, i wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't have a portion of his assets in Euros as well. In fact, to hold another currency on reserve is a good balancing act for all govt treasuries. Indecision coming in only when "self interest" confuse the equation. Hence the last 8 years in the Whitehouse.

    The Euro need not be a threat... but only embraced. This alone would dissipate such fears.

    Somehow, i do feel Barack will advance such insights... over and above the clouded self driven interest of a few back room boys.

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21. gatesofgrace
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    P.S.

    i do hope that some of you have looked close enough to the links to realize a "suggestion" that their might be "powerful forces" supporting the creation of those subduction zones and the increase of the oil reserves. Some estimates tripling up to 1.2 trillion barrels from 261 billion barrels. Doing so mostly without fossilized hydrocarbons. Perhaps this is a miracle of sorts.

    One note further! As this one braced for any end time solutions, by eradicating the fears associated with it, i started to see something. Should the end time prophecy require fear to instigate it's conclusion. (Some of you were "revealing this" notion in other threads.) If we debunk the fear and work in sync with "powers" supporting what is in our hearts, global solutions to any planetary or spiritual global crisis is doable.

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22. Starss
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    The reason the earth has so much oil is that it lubricates the plates and
    prevents friction down under there. Remove too much oil and then you have problems
    called earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and nasty reactions.
    The earth has reasons for everything...and yes, moderation is the key, but
    who listens when money gluttony is involved????

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23. abstractprophet
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    gates,

    As always your insight regarding worldly matters appears to be relatively closer to mine than others.

    Yet today it is seen that All that is unfolding before our very eyes is purely by the Grace of God, and by Gods design. How could it not be?

    Today this Trust that as God appears to trip me over I am raised to my feet before ever falling down warms the heart.

    I don't know.

    What do you think?

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24. gatesofgrace
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    ap,

    The idea surrounding the Bahia's that the messiah is directing matters is resonating with me more and more. This does not take anything away from say his inauguration to arrive with great fanfare. Could a shift in consciousness occur with mankind, if only he would lend a hand, is a plausible petition by the saints from above... that await the full transition.

    What was important, i feel, was to realize that a shift was required. That the free for all of the dark lord, would be stayed at some time, and we would not only be left alone to see how it goes, but we could be coached. This would be consistent with his resurrection and the freedom to do so.

    Please continue!

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25. gatesofgrace
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    Starss,

    This one is with out words. Your entry is shifty in itself, isn't it? lol

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26. abstractprophet
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    gates,

    So you are implying that Obama is the messiah? I can see that you have been pointing to this for some time.

    Personally until yesterday I thought of him as the one who restores the whore of babylon to its place for a short period.

    Today I see I am in no position to speculate who may or may not be the messiah, or the beast, and have absolute faith in Gods Grace that what is happening now is by the Supreme Beings design.

    Yes I agree that a shift in conciousness is needed to propel us forward, so that we may continue to sustain ourself. Yet this in and of itself is in one way to be wrapped up in the world of appearances and earthly desires don't you think?

    Another said this to me recently and it resonated deeply and I offer it here for consideration;

    "As Pluto moves into Capricorn, for the first time in 230 years, again philosophical revolution is upon us, only now the leap is longer, the French Revolution & American Independence did bring change & growth 230 years ago, but as you say, the tyranny of one George has been changed to another. Yet maybe it is their despotism has made us look more deeply into our souls, & now, some 2000 years after we were shown a way, maybe, as we head into the 21st Century, we are ready to step past our individual egos into a soul expression. Thus releasing our personal & cultural ego, & creating personal soulful character within a civilized society, know as heaven on earth. All of the signs are right here, we just have to do the leaping into our own future. May the force be with you, as the Great Adventure truly begins."

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27. gatesofgrace
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    ap,

    Ooops! Hold up there! We miscued. I referred to the inauguration of the messiah (Yeshua). I referenced Baha'ullah whose followers say that the 1000 yrs. of the Messiah on earth has been with us since his inception (birth). Mirza Hoseyn 'Ali Nuri, known as Baha'ullah, meaning "The Glory of God," was born in Tehran in 1817. His carnation now talking place in so many forms, like a thief in the night.

    Now that is to say that the inauguration pending will be during the summation of those 1000 years, This would be a time for the shift in consciousness to be perfected.

    We are in tune with the rest of your post. Yes! Sorry! As i reread i can see where you went with this. lol

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28. abstractprophet
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    gates,

    Its funny but as I have contemplated the teachings of Yeshua the past couple of weeks, actually reading the Gospels consistently probably for the first time ever, it occured to me that the teachings offer a way out to experience life as it is.

    This led me to a point where I could see many within the Empire of the day actually having their minds free-ed from the mental slavery that must have been instilled to keep the hordes at bay. This to the Empire must have been seen as extremely dangerous as of course if to many get wind of this the Emporer loses all his power. So what does the Emporer do?

    This is perhaps telling in considering that Constantine fused the teachings with paganism and created a doctrine that made the Christ largely unaccessible to the population. This in a sense allowed the Empire to continue with now a new means to control the minds of those under its influence. Could you imagine. lol

    Like I said though, I am growing tired of speculating and as it stands today I am more interested in just allowing Gods Grace to flow through me without getting in the way. After all how could I say with any certainty what actually occured in those times past without getting caught up in the trappings of appearances.

    Peace

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