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  • Started 1 year ago by gatesofgrace
  • Latest reply from abstractprophet

  1. gatesofgrace
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    gatesofgrace

    As it is seen:

    War on drugs: Single most failed policy in the modern world. This criminalization of banned substances in the last 50 years has cost 50 trillion dollars globally, while impacting by killing, destroying or altering the lives of an estimated 2 billion persons.

    Single solution: Decriminalize all banned substances!

    Global recession: The catalysts that broke the backs of the middle/lower class globally was the profit speculation on the spot and futures of oil pricing. With consumers burdened with the demand of double incomes that depressed salaries in the labor market, the tempo was set. While double incomes drove up the cost of living, families artificially lost control of many excessive policies that followed. Such as the lack of scrutiny that allowed the practice of inflated interest rates from bank credit cards. Whereby $2000 or less credit card loans replaced the low cost personal loan that was affordable and a sober second thought to most. The extended mandatory insurances policies that ultimately inflated health and auto costs squeezing disposable income from family budgets. Frankly when the speculation started on the oil there was nothing left to give or give up.

    Solution: Oil should no longer be a commodity for sale, nor the alternative energy that follows. Give up all mandatory insurance policies so that they cannot be exploited any longer, while artificially jacking up pricing. Note: Insurance went through the roof when claims started flowing in from those that had little other option to get ahead.

    Please add your thoughts and solutions if you have any.

    Thanks!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. starzz
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    starzz

    Artificially raising home prices...artificially raising oil prices...Using medical
    procedures not as community services but services that had to make a profit...to
    heck with your fellow man, charge him for every procedure and charge big...
    One of the biggest problems is that new things that could save us and this planet
    are so expensive that no one can afford them...it should be the other way around...
    if it benefits mankind (so that it would be used!) and helps the planet (it needs
    to be lowest cost so everyone can help the planet!)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. starzz
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    starzz

    If you want to help the people on this planet you offer the lowest price, so people
    will buy this new helpful thing they are not sure about but can afford...
    Example: at the local store, paper or plastic? or green bags. ??? Paper will cost
    you 10 cents a bag and plastic will cost you 10 cents a bag, but this green bag is
    free and each time you return with it, we give you 25 cents credit... You think
    poor people are going to use paper or plastic?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. gatesofgrace
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    gatesofgrace

    More for the record:

    General Motors bought a patent from an independent inventor who has 100 patents to his name. He had a battery that would work effectively with the electric cv-1. Instead G.M. built the hummer and discontinued the cv-1. Then they sold the battery patent to Texaco.

    Solution: Let the motor company (GM) go bankrupt and bring on a new operation with electric engineering as it's keepsake... retrain the former employee's under a new contract that has competitive salaries. All the Gov. has to do is... Just do it. G.M. is practically insolvent anyways.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. starzz
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    starzz

    Agreed Gates. Promote what you want to come forth... Bit of History...friend years
    ago bought a new car that got excellent gas mileage. Why that car didn't need any gas
    for the first five months they owned it. When the guy started bragging about his
    new car, the dealers had a check and notified the company. Seems the carburetor, was
    NOT stock, so they offered the chap a new car every year for the rest of his life in
    exchange for the "hybrid" carburetor. Car companies could bring forth improved products
    every year...but they withhold just enough to ensure something new every year...wasting
    enough gas, wasting oil, wasting resources, $, and tempers....
    My thought...? If a company is going under, let them go. They were doing something
    wrong in the first place. Let them flounder...regroup...improve on their own. You do
    not bail out foundering companies...you let them disappear. There are dozens of
    car companies no longer in existence....no one bailed them out.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. gatesofgrace
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    gatesofgrace

    starzz,

    So many, many stories just like that. So sad! Many or most furnaces that are in most homes and business's are not certified nor energy smart. Why? The installs are controlled by the oil companies who benefit from less efficient units that soak up oil like a rag.

    Solution: If an industry operation is liable for such activity they should be scrutinized and forced to become leaders in efficiency. They should be charged with a surtax until they are complaint.

    I'm thinking we should run this protocol together starzz! There are so many just like us who could. Hope is good!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. pavlin

    This forum reminded me of a Cree Indian Proverb
    Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money.

    Thank you, guys, for sharing this. Isn't it amazing how humanity is begging for problems? We just don't want things to be easy, I sometimes wonder why.

    all the best

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. starzz
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    starzz

    Agreed Gates: Rumsford fireplace...most efficient heater, Ben Franklin
    developed a potbelly stove to heat a house...the exit pipe led smoke out
    while causing heat to fill the house.
    Of course, one of the problems is that those who are scrutinizing
    industry are the same ones paid by industry....
    So many things that worked were drummed out of existence by "better,
    newer, more modern, efficient" methods,or safer... units,
    I was thinking that outsourcing jobs in a country that is laying off
    workers is really, really stupid...
    If there is to be a war, and the president does declare war, he needs
    to be in the front row with his troops and stay there until war is over.
    Really, everyone, aren't we civilized enough to know how to avoid hitting
    our fellow man with a club or weapon???? Don't we yet realize that the
    enemy is ourselves, facing us, or that war is useless because everyone
    loses and no one ever wins????? It's like two children facing off...my
    club's bigger than your bat...only there are men and nasty weapons but
    the face off is the same... And even more foolish...God is on my side.
    God is probably looking down, shaking his head and thinking "When will
    they ever learn??? I gave them more sense than that! Wish they'd use it!"

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. YetAnotherSeeker
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    YetAnotherSeeker

    ""hybrid" carburetor."

    Back in the '70's I heard of something called a "Pogue" carburetor, which could reportedly get up to 100 mpg with the technology of that time! Rumor has it that the patent was purchased by an oil company.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. shin
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    shin

    There are many rumours and claims and which one has been substantiated?
    The internet is 30 years old, there plenty of websites with instructions, models and detailed plans on how to produce cheap or free energy.
    Much of that information is patent free and still it has not materialised anything even on a small scale. Why? Becuse many are hoaxes, scientific hogwash, unpractical.

    To suggest that any company no matter what size should be allowed to go bust is ignoring the consequences, and no matter what we do there are always unintended consequences. In hindsight some might even be called catastrophic.
    The solution has to come from somewhere else.

    In Ralph Nader's interview with Aljazeera he refers to an internal and confidential powerpoint presentation from AIG giving the reasons why AIG cannot be allowed to go bust.

    To keep a company afloat does not means to go on with the same people, the same management team and the same organisational culture.
    One step towards that is hold the directors responsible in their personal capacity for willful and irresponsible decisions, even beyond resigning or retiring from the company.
    The biggest change has to come from a change in culture, something that is difficult to achieve when management structures remain in place.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. starzz
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    starzz

    If a company of a thousand employees sits there and waits for a grant, a reprieve,
    a boost of money to keep it solvent, it is making serious mistakes. Those mistakes
    are going to destroy the company, if not now, later.
    If I am on welfare and I get so much a month free, where is my incentive to work? Why
    should I work when I am getting $$$$???? Why should I change my tune???? Why should
    I improve myself, make changes, even educate myself and make smarter decisions when
    Uncle Sam will support me to the life I'd like to get accustomed to??????
    If that company is so important that the whole economy of the nation would suffer
    if the company went under, perhaps it is too huge and needs to sell off parts of itself
    in order to survive...or divide like Mother Bell and all her Baby Bells...that's what
    happened 40 years ago...but now the govt bails them out....foolish.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. starzz
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    starzz

    Thought you might enjoy....

    Lawrence Livermore Laboratories has discovered the heaviest element yet
    known to science. The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neutron,
    25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy
    neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312..
    These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are
    surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.
    Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be
    detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact.
    A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally
    take less than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 years to complete.
    Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2 to 6 years.
    It does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a
    notion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In
    fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each
    reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.
    This characteristic of morons promotion leads some scientists to believe
    that Governmentium is formed whenever morons' reach a critical
    concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical
    morass.When catalysed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium,
    an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium since it
    has half as many peons but twice as many morons.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. gatesofgrace
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    gatesofgrace

    That messes me up!

    Luv it!

    Always considered myself as a wannabe peon.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. gatesofgrace
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    gatesofgrace

    In 1991 i was driving commercially approx. 800k (500miles)a day. Waited almost a year for the 1992 Honda VX to arrive and bought one for 12,000. At 95k per/hour this engine rpms were around 1800k. Motorcycles idle at 1500/1800k. So i drove my car just above idling speed @ 95k per/hour on the hwy. for 4.5 years and put 932,000k. Average fuel consumption per highway... 68 miles per gallon.

    Point of interest is that the consumer who could buy a DX or CX model civic for $10,000 and receive 40 miles per gallon in 1992, didn't have and urgency for the extra cost of $2k and 25+ miles per gallon. Hence the VX models sat on the lot and the line was discontinued after 3 years.

    Solution: Volatility and speculation in the fuel pricing has inhibited pro green products for the last 30 years. The oil prices push... until it looks as if smart energy alternatives would be pursued, then the price would roll back. It has just done this again. Only this time it caused a global recession, 100's of suicides/murders, thousands of family break ups and 50 million lost jobs worldwide. Yet, not one politician has linked the global recession on the one common denominator that was the spot/futures of oil pricing.

    Lock the price for a 7 year period and promote reduction. With each reduction of say 10 million per day in any 90 day (quarter) globally... governments could compensate the producers and give an equal amount to technologies that had supported this.

    This one sees a global governing body coming. ONLY it will be out of fear rather than rationale.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. shin
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    shin

    The current problems have not arisen from high fuel prices. The troubles of the big corporations does not lie in the bad quality or bad positioning of their product, although these factors may contribute.

    Products can't be sold because there is no money buy them. The money flow has dried up because too many people have borrowed from the future and that future was built on shaky foundations.

    The whole economy was built on that foundation, the big corporations in trouble are just the most visible symptoms.

    What needs to be done by governments is to preserve the investments as much as possible while forcing a change in attitude. Not encourage, force.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. abstractprophet

    http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=5871495968130273402&ei=Zh-_SYqQEIaIqQP_z-3DAQ&q=who+killed+electric+car&hl=en

    Posted 1 year ago #
  17. shin
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    shin

    The film may be an interesting thing on its own, but the throubles at our doorstep has little to do with kind of energy a vehicle uses and other 'green' stuff.
    If there is no money one can't buy anything like a car no matter whether it runs on gas, diesel, electricity or even water for that matter. There are people who want to buy things like cars, any car, but can't because the banks are unwilling to grant credit.
    How bad the situation should be clear to people when they hear that banks are not even willing to grant credit to another bank!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. gatesofgrace
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    gatesofgrace

    shin wrote:

    Products can't be sold because there is no money buy them. The money flow has dried up because too many people have borrowed from the future and that future was built on shaky foundations. end quote

    shin,

    Another insight (way of saying this), is that disposable income has been eroded because of double income families, which in part, inspired extended credit allowances that in time filtered the subtleties of policy; that was no less extortion by banks and insurance companies alike. They were instructed to conduct business by an artificial demand under mandatory legislation. Such has been the life of the car insurance that obscured the real cost of coverage in the last 30 years. Such monopolies have squeezed every penny available.

    Alas! One must yet believe that the price of oil... was the straw that broke the camels back in all of this.

    By saying it as you do shin, i feel, lets these problematic scenario's slip through the collective consciousness. Thus, little to nothing has been gained nor have they been understood and realized for what they are.

    Double income families have cost us dearly giving power to the corporation's in so many ways. Do you see this?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. gatesofgrace
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    gatesofgrace

    ap,

    In this province of Canada, Nova Scotia we have 4500 kilometers of coastline. In fact we have a place called the Cape Breton highlands. Wind availability, speed and velocity is second to none on the planet. Presently we have dead or diseased forests sitting on these hills. Nova Scotia could unilaterally place forests of windmills on these sites with harvestable vegetation underneath. People would come from all around just to see this. We would be selling copious amounts of electricity back into the grid while driving electric cars one and all.

    Instead: Oil and coal is imported by a U.S. based power company, to serve the province her electricity. Politician heads are so deep up the power company pipelines, one cannot tell where N.S. power CEO's end and the Politicians begins.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. abstractprophet

    I recently got a contract with a company that sells & installs solar panels, which is great in itself. Yet, the way the shitstem is set up these companies get Renewable Energy Certificates for every system they sell & install. Which leads to the rub. These certificates are then sold to "dirty" companies so that they can reduce their carbon footprint. In other words they don't actually have to do anything to reduce emissions, instead they can buy their way out. You've got to laugh, else you may run the risk of going postal.

    Of course the govt isn't going to reduce coal/oil/uranium/etc mining and deforestation when these are such big earners for us. Of course these companies can also be directly linked to the quality of life that I live which again in itself is a bit of a mind bend. Should I be a proud Aussie and revel in the fact that I live in the worlds quarry? Or should I be angry and militant in my approach towards drastic measures for a suistainable future? Hmmm...lol Again I must laugh.

    And just while I am on my little tangent another thing that has got me laughing lately is the stimulus package that our Govt has provided to fight its way through the "economic crisis". Interestingly they have thrown money at everyone in the country so that they can prop up the retail market cause as we all know this too drives the economy. It makes me wonder what kind of world I would live in if consumerist greed was not evident. Would I even have the luxury of being able to choose organic produce over the aestetically perfect & genetically modified fruit & veg?

    I must laugh and do my best.

    Blessings All

    Posted 12 months ago #

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