Is the New Age the New Christianity in that it corrupts Truth so that it may be used as a means to control rather than a path to freedom....?
And that is not to take away from the teachingsof Yeshu......
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Sometimes our spiritual passiveness is used to control and subdue ourselves
The control comes when it is far easier to go with the lie
Then it is to look at the ugly truth"and like lambs they are led to the slaughter"
yes all is an illusion ..untill a big rat bites your toe
Posted 7 months ago # -
Your spirited insight is always welcomed Rose. I'm feeling it....
Would you agree that in a sense the lie is the belief that the world (my perspective) is red and only red as that is all I see it as, whereas the "ugly truth" is that the world (perspective) is a rainbow?
Of course the view that the world (perspective) is a rainbow and only a rainbow can also be a trap of the mind to make you think that YOU know, can't it? ;o)
lol @ the rat, Bless those little robots... :o)
EDIT: I did mean to say rodents but when i reread the post I got more of a laugh out of the fact I had typed robots. Anyways....
Just some more ramblings of a Spiritual Biafrin
Posted 7 months ago # -
Genetic scientists would have us believe that the cradle of humanity is Africa and that appearances only make up a very small percentage of of DNA.
They would also tell us that we also share strong DNA similarities with chimps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRssIkxO-AY
:o)
Posted 7 months ago # -
Isn't much of the DNA redundant anyway? So what does it mean that the chimp's and our's is similar?
New Age is not New Christianity except that most New Ager's we know have a Christian background in the past or the present.
Many of the New Age beliefs have not brought us closer to the truth, on the contrary. This is due to importing other corrupted truths and graft them onto already corrupted truth in order to 'fix' them. The end result is a bigger mess than ever.Posted 7 months ago # -
I was asking the question about the chimps and humans DNA to draw a line between their levels of intelligence also. It was a subtle attempt at humour. Obviously not so successful. :o)
Do you think we the 'smartest' species on the planet?
Regarding New Age, and any other spiritual movemnet for that matter, what are your thoughts around the idea that historicaly Truth has been diluted so as to be used as a means to subdue the followers so as they may be controlled as opposed to freeing them so their is no need for a controller?
Posted 7 months ago # -
Fair call. Can you be more specific though?
Also, what do you think it is that makes advertising such a powerful tool in leading people towards buying particular products and making specific lifestyle choices?
Posted 6 months ago # -
ap, if you want to make yourself, or maybe most of humanity a victim of distorted historical truth then your theory is a good one. But what do you offer in turn except mistrust and suspicion? It is the cry of the powerless, moreover, the hopless and those who have given up.
If what you say is true then the only people who are not victims are the ones who actively rewrite history, but how many can and will do that?We also have to ask whether it would matter that history is distorted? How does this knowledge free you? It doesn't. What frees us is to take our personal power back and that happens in the present.
As to advertising, repetition, portrayal of glamour and status. Both are higher human needs, according to Maslow.
Posted 6 months ago # -
Yes shin, I can see what you are saying, which is the reasoning behind the fair call comment in the previous post. I definately agree that this sort of thinking is often paranoid and many of the concepts contained therein are fantacy. No more so fantacy than the idea that they are fantacy also though eh.
The fact that history, or his-story, is entered into mix is perhaps telling. Personally I feel that history offers a very limited view of the actuality of the given time that the historical document was written. In Australia, so long enslaved by the White Australia Policy, the traditional custodians and their stories (note not his stories) were largely condemned by the colinisers in an attemot to completely assimilate and eradicate their culture. If you have your doubts just look into the "Stolen Generation" and the implications of such a foul stenched policy. How much has been lost...? By my reckoning enough to make us aware that nothing has. Yet....
This is based purely on an assumption, but by your reckoning those who see the world through such a 'distorted' view should not be allowed a voice, which whether you recognise or acknowledge it yourself, is imho something that is deeply rooted in the subconcious and draws very much in line with the days of colonialism when that which was foreigh or different to what was dictated as acceptable by western culture was held to ridicule and demonised as incoherent and invalid. Personally, I do not wish to castigate anyone as I personally feel that this deep rooted instinctive behaviour that is conditioned into us so that we "have a better chance at success" is a rotting piece of fruit that needs to be placed in the compost.
As for Maslow, I would take his ideas as the same grain of salt that I take my own... :o)
Interested in your thoughts...
Posted 6 months ago # -
I assume that when you talk of history and its corruption you refer mainly to Christian texts.
I don't see what the problem is. Most texts are available to everyone.
We have the text, we have a brain, we have our life. Isn't that enough to make up one's mind?Posted 6 months ago # -
Ahhh, I see. We want belonging and acceptance. We don't want to be left out, get rejected and ostracised. One of Maslov's fairly low level needs :)
OK, no problem, but at least let's be honest and say we are afraid to make up our own mind and proclaim our findings because people might not like it and we would then feel bad.
So we blame the historians, the Church, governments or whatever. Does that make us feel good?Posted 6 months ago # -
"OK, no problem, but at least let's be honest and say we are afraid to make up our own mind and proclaim our findings because people might not like it and we would then feel bad."
LOL - I don't know how you got that out of what I said, but lets move on...
I am not pointing any fingers at Christian texts at all.
What is the difference between actuality/reality and illusion after the actuality? No matter how you cut it up history or HIS STORY is a very misogynistic view of the past and the events that surround it. This sh*t f*cks with peoples minds and creates an imbalance. It also helps create an unconcious view of the world that makes it difficult for us to make up our own mind as we are continuously bombarded with how to think.
Check this doco out;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dA89CBBOC0&feature=related
It is not about blame either. Its about recognising what needs to change to make a less constricted world. Much like recognising within the self what needs to change to live a less constricted life.
Why are you wrapping negative conceptions to what I say BTW? Do you have issues with people that hold these views. I tell you a funny story I like to ask people that blag on about the existance of the illuminati blah blah blah, how do you know that the idea of the illuminati is not just a plant of the illuminati. It generally subdues the paranoid fervour for at least a few seconds.
:o)
Posted 6 months ago #
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