Hi! Has anyone got any experiece with music and enlightenment? I have just made a piece of music which (at least) makes my mind go quiet. I think in some way it just trick or makes you mind/ego go mad, so it must shut up when you listen. Would love to get some feedback! you can find it here: http://itrulylovemusic.wordpress.com, the song is called "bliss", enjoy
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Can music help you become enlightened?
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the link is dead, but yes, music is enlightenment, or small increments towards it. I would say music expresses what is in us, artists do this well and are usually more evolved than the majority. (or use drugs to temporarily express more evolved expressions)The majority lags along trying to understand the secret of the song and the artist...for most people this is an unconscious doing, their heart opens to some songs as it expresses something they are trying to understand... thus teaching enlightenment...
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i listened to it,,i have no input..
my thoughts for you are.... emotions into music,,, expression of emotions into music,,, a sequence of emotions that helps bring the audience to awareness of an emotional sequence in them.... such as hurt-blame-anger-frustration-awareness-forgiveness
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- There is a faculty in the human brain that is only triggered by music. It has no other function that Scientists (yet) know of. Don't know if that says anything to you, but I think it's kinda cool.
- Biblically, Music is very much associated with the meditative state required for Prophecy. Rabbi Kaplain wrote a book called 'Meditation and the Bible' where he talks about that in depth... also talks about a form of meditation called 'Ranen' which means (loosely) 'bursting of emotions' that is usually expressed through song.
- Music is strongly associated with the Zodiac as well (there are 12 tones in the common musical scale that directly associate with the 12 zodiac signs). The Zodiac are floes of spiritual energy that constantly emanate into this world, guiding nature and our base instincts/desires.
- I suspect that music can be utilized in the same way, to 'guide' your base self and remold it according to your chosen vibrational pattern/musical style. This is a personal theory, that I think I've seen evidence for but I'm not positive about it. Let me know if anyone has similar ideas/experiences.Posted 1 year ago # -
Dear Mattis
As far as our brian is concerned , when we here sound it is felt physically like touch.
There for we are touched by music. Our heart beats rhythmically. We are inherently beating and feel vibrations at a very subconscious level…any one on here tried listening to their heartbeat?Dynamaic sound levels affect our emotions in a very obvious way people shouting will make you nervous for example, in some martial arts loud noises are inflicted on an opponent before blows, Mohamed Ali always raised his voice to his opponents before fights at weigh ins and media events.
I am an established record producer of Some repute, Anam is not my real name but is a clue re my work.
I released an Lp in 1994 and got a letter from a man in Japan who said it changed his mind about committing suicide.
Another friend of mine and a successful artist told me of a letter he received from a woman whose husband listened to one of his LPs every day to lift his spirits and claims it helped beat cancer.
I have to admit that I like Rap music however it is known throughout the black community to have a direct impact on gun crime and there are many lobbies trying ( unsuccessfully ) to stop Major Record companies funding these evil and negative projects. Unfortunately; sales soar with controversy and especially when some one is shot such as Biggie Smalls or Tupac.
For me music is a gift, those with deep emotions will be more effected by it, that goes for anger too in the latter of my examples.
Hitler was maybe one of the first to really employ the ideas of our emotional responses to music across a nation and used music much in his propa ganda. The insult kinda continues today with rap music. Hitler took beautiful and dramatic pieces inspired by the wonders of nature, ie mountains storms and rough seas and set his armies marching to them. In Rap I often find beautiful soul songs from the 70s bastardised and used as backdrops for lyrics that would be unrepeatable on this gentle forum.
Music also fills our day in a way that can be subtle and un noticed.
In great films we see this where music speaks the unwritten dialogue of emotion and in a way that we don’t even realise we were listeningYamah… I had never noticed the connection between music and the Zodiac…you are full of suprises.
I see myself as a healer…music is my medicine.
My final thought
Only those for whom music was a first love can make music that is truly loved
Stay Blessed
Anam
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I play Guitar and find that sometimes, particularly while jammin, the music takes over. there is no thought involved just an inner enjoyment of the creative process.
I used to smoke a lot of cannabis when i played and this seemed to make it easier to let go and just play. but now i have stopped using drugs the inner enjoyment and peace level is much deeper. when in this state i find it is not me (my mind) playing but the universe playing through me. i supose in essence this is a breif view into what enlightenment is.
so if music is created like this and is untampered with by the ego then it could perhaps envoke enlightenment in the listner.Posted 1 year ago # -
i love music...listening and dancing to it, and making it. Mr. Y, you mentioned that about the brain, what exactly is it that happens...what is triggered? i know from my experience music makes me feel alive...makes me want to move...and just makes me feel good...they say love makes the world go round...but maybe music does... :)
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"Mr. Y, you mentioned that about the brain, what exactly is it that happens...what is triggered?"
I don't know, just heard about it and thought it was a cool fact.Anam: maybe you can answer this question, being in the business... why is all popular music really terrible? And how does it get popular?
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not all of it is terrible...Nora Jones is terrific...Train's cd...Drops of Jupiter...Maroon 5, songs about jane...nickle back...Inya...there is a lot of good music out there...will let you know when i have a cd available... :)
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Seven tones in the western scales, seven chakras, seven colors of the rainbow, seven stages of life...
Twelve tones in the complete (western) chromatic scale; twelve signs of the zodiac; twelve months of the year...
Music can and does affect the body, mind, and spirit. Sometimes it is used to support the lyrics. This is the case in most popular music (in western music anyway). Other times it is the rhythm and the sound (melody and/or harmony) which evoke reaction. How else can one explain the rush of emotion that is felt, say, during the finale of Beethoven's 9th Symphony, even when it is sung in a language one does not understand?
I have recently been studyng the theory and practice of healing using sound as the medium. Two of the books which have been most helpful for me are: Sacred Sound by Ted Andrews (Llewellyn Worldwide) and The Healing Energies of Music by Hal A. Lingerman (Theosophical Publishing House).
There is also much evidence that sacred sounds were used in past societies. Why did the walls of Jericho fall down? According the book of Joshuah, the priests circled the city, blowing their trumpets for once each day for seven days (there's that number again!). On the seventh day, they circled the city seven times, and at Joshua's signal, everyone gave a shout, and the walls as they say, came a-tumblin' down/
The Australian aboriginal people use the digeridoo in ther shamanic healing ceremonies; Both indiginous Americans and Africans use rattles, drumming and chanting for healing.
Just a few examples that I can recall right now.
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"Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper."
Albert EinsteinPosted 1 year ago # -
bless yas... :) big on sound ,, sonic,, frequency resonants this end... think it is definately a forgotten element... have looked into this a little bit... gods of eden is a book offering a point of view about the history of using sound waves... is a bit left field and not nessesarily correct but it alleged that the pyramids where built using sound waves... like i said left field... lol... it also reported some bloke from denmark who allegedly saw some sect of tibetan monks moving stones up a mountain with trumpets and drums or something...
on this: just consider gregorian chants and tibetan chants are similar in tone and texture with both said to raise one to a higher level of conciousness...
definately think music is a major tool in reshaping the world... is good to have some positive uplifting music permeating the mindless bling, bling, booty bash i'm an angsty outcast vibe...
star... that quote is the best... :)
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just throwing one out there... but do you 'think' that thought is also determined by the 'invisible piper... :)
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There seems to be a few misconceptions when it comes to applying whole numbers to the fluid dynamics of refected light and other vibrations of energy. Also there is a culutural bias to how we as humans choose to catagorize these vibrations. For example the visible spectrum offers infinite variations of color. Western culture settles on 3 primary colors plus 3 additional mix colors then adds black and white. If we are refering to the colors associted with seven spinal and gladular chakras that's another story. But here again' there are actually 21 chakras.
In regard to music I have had experiences where 'inner music' has lifted me upwards. I found that 'inner music' is spiritual music, and is a usefull assistance to resolving some life issues.
Aum ShantiPosted 1 year ago # -
bliss indeed is the acceptance that the piper is all... how can one then not accept all the pipers pupils... for those that once appeared to be thy enemy suddenly appear as another note in the greatest symphony ever written... realising this and accepting ALL enemies as being on equal footing certainly does liberate the mind from itself... it is in this recognition that ego dissolves.... :)
this realisation makes one feel that the ego self is actually by design in place to protect true self from seeing itself in the mirror... just another thought... :)
ca... indeed you can tell a lot about a person by the music they listen to... control, for want of a better word, the airwaves and you can surely control the minds... great music to me is music that brings that inner music into the outter world.. there is plenty of it out here... you just have to look within to find it... :)
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One Love! One Heart!
Let's get together and feel all right.
Hear the children cryin' (One Love!);
Hear the children cryin' (One Heart!),
Sayin': give thanks and praise to the Lord and I will feel all right;
Sayin': let's get together and feel all right. Wo wo-wo wo-wo!Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love!);
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart!):
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner,
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own beliefs?One Love! What about the one heart? One Heart!
What about - ? Let's get together and feel all right
As it was in the beginning (One Love!);
So shall it be in the end (One Heart!),
All right!
Give thanks and praise to the Lord and I will feel all right;
Let's get together and feel all right.
One more thing!Let's get together to fight this Holy Armagiddyon (One Love!),
So when the Man comes there will be no, no doom (One Song!).
Have pity on those whose chances grows t'inner;
There ain't no hiding place from the Father of Creation.Sayin': One Love! What about the One Heart? (One Heart!)
What about the - ? Let's get together and feel all right.
I'm pleadin' to mankind! (One Love!);
Oh, Lord! (One Heart) Wo-ooh!Give thanks and praise to the Lord and I will feel all right;
Let's get together and feel all right.
Give thanks and praise to the Lord and I will feel all right;
Let's get together and feel all right.give thanks and praise for the insight the blessed bob marley spread throughout the world... when you consider the whole earth unquestionably the biggest cultural icon of 'this' time...
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Kokopeli is a deity of the ancient Anasazi, considered to be ancestors of the modern Hopi. He is usually depicted playing a flute and carrying a sack on his back. Some legends have the sack containing seeds, some have the sack containing songs.. He is considered a fertility deity.
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nice... thanks yas... it is interesting that the seeds are also songs... that resonates... :)
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